Hola! 'nother noob here...(X-post)
Hola! 'nother noob here...(X-post)
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I'll have to keep my intro brief, but in a nutshell, here is my deal...
I am definitely an alcoholic, and have been for 20 years, at least.
I have had *limited* success, in two brief phases, with AA...but in general, I always came to a point where I resented AA more than the chaos of drinking..I know, I have heard all of the reflexive arguments as to why that may have been (and continues to be) the case. I came to AA the first time when I was 19, through the backdoor...I was in recovery for a coke problem, and somehow got into the AA thing over the NA thing. It worked for a year and a half, after which I went to study abroad, and started drinking socially...(Interestingly, I have not touched cocaine since Christmas day, 1985...and have never desired it, or even thought about it much since then).
The drinking continued, and of course, got progressively worse. For 9 years I settled into a 8-11 drink day, every day. I would drink three or four socially, and ther rest alone. This, of course, eventually dead ended me in a relationship and work capacity, so after hitting a bottom of sorts, I tried AA again. Worked for about a year, quit going to meetings, stayed sober...till I got sick of the pathetic social scene available in my TINY town, met a girl, started drinking again, and, hey, whaddya now, hooked up for the first time since I got sober!
Anyhoo, I have been maintaining a steady 8-10 a day habit, and I am sick of it...but I am NOT interested in what AA has to offer. I am more than happy to open dialogue here as to possible alternatives, but to me, AA is just a bit too self righteous, dogmatic, and rigid for my personal tastes, and ideological bent.
I hope anyone is interested in sharing their success stories without the god-fix, I know it has worked for many many people as well.
Thanks to anyone who reads this, I do, all things said, have an open mind, and I do respect that the faith-based/disease mamagement model has worked quite well for millions...maybe I just enjoy being an anomoly!
Cheers, Dipso
I'll have to keep my intro brief, but in a nutshell, here is my deal...
I am definitely an alcoholic, and have been for 20 years, at least.
I have had *limited* success, in two brief phases, with AA...but in general, I always came to a point where I resented AA more than the chaos of drinking..I know, I have heard all of the reflexive arguments as to why that may have been (and continues to be) the case. I came to AA the first time when I was 19, through the backdoor...I was in recovery for a coke problem, and somehow got into the AA thing over the NA thing. It worked for a year and a half, after which I went to study abroad, and started drinking socially...(Interestingly, I have not touched cocaine since Christmas day, 1985...and have never desired it, or even thought about it much since then).
The drinking continued, and of course, got progressively worse. For 9 years I settled into a 8-11 drink day, every day. I would drink three or four socially, and ther rest alone. This, of course, eventually dead ended me in a relationship and work capacity, so after hitting a bottom of sorts, I tried AA again. Worked for about a year, quit going to meetings, stayed sober...till I got sick of the pathetic social scene available in my TINY town, met a girl, started drinking again, and, hey, whaddya now, hooked up for the first time since I got sober!
Anyhoo, I have been maintaining a steady 8-10 a day habit, and I am sick of it...but I am NOT interested in what AA has to offer. I am more than happy to open dialogue here as to possible alternatives, but to me, AA is just a bit too self righteous, dogmatic, and rigid for my personal tastes, and ideological bent.
I hope anyone is interested in sharing their success stories without the god-fix, I know it has worked for many many people as well.
Thanks to anyone who reads this, I do, all things said, have an open mind, and I do respect that the faith-based/disease mamagement model has worked quite well for millions...maybe I just enjoy being an anomoly!
Cheers, Dipso
I left AA for simular reasons. Its not unusual for people to do that.
What alternatives are there: I use a bit of SMART recovery, a bit of Secular Organisation for Sobriety, and - of course - Sober Recovery. Most of all, I use myself, and not rely to heavily on anything.
I believe there are now, thank God, enough alternatives for people to make better choices (and better chances) in their recovery process.
And, as I am sure you are well, this is all just words, if you don't put down the drink.
Check this link: http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...nfo-76726.html
And keep in touch...you can do this pal...
What alternatives are there: I use a bit of SMART recovery, a bit of Secular Organisation for Sobriety, and - of course - Sober Recovery. Most of all, I use myself, and not rely to heavily on anything.
I believe there are now, thank God, enough alternatives for people to make better choices (and better chances) in their recovery process.
And, as I am sure you are well, this is all just words, if you don't put down the drink.
Check this link: http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...nfo-76726.html
And keep in touch...you can do this pal...
Thanks, 5, I know what I in for...
Hopefully I can use this forum to bounce the frustrations of the first days off on others. I know how hard it is, and I harbor no illusions. Bit of a dilemma, though, ironically, I am a bit addicted to forum surfing...I find that kind of funny, actually. I hope there are others posting at odd hours, i think I will be utilising this resource. I am hoping to supplant the craving tonight with exercise and busywork, but I don't know...I am struggling with the 'taper off' rationale right this moment, already projecting as to how I am going to feel at 9:00 PM...but I figure honesty ahead of time about it is better that making that rash decision on my own.
Thanks, Dipso
Thanks, Dipso
Forward we go...side by side-Rest In Peace
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In early sobriety....I had no computer and lived alone.
I do remember timing those drinking urges...I think mine were lasting about 5-7 minutes.
I vrushed my teeth a lot..... for some reason it helped.
Also drank oodles of liquid.
I drank from a large mug with a straw cause it did not
remind me of a 'real" drink.
As you know...the urges lessen in severity and frequency as long as you stay sober.
See you later...
In early sobriety....I had no computer and lived alone.
I do remember timing those drinking urges...I think mine were lasting about 5-7 minutes.
I vrushed my teeth a lot..... for some reason it helped.
Also drank oodles of liquid.
I drank from a large mug with a straw cause it did not
remind me of a 'real" drink.
As you know...the urges lessen in severity and frequency as long as you stay sober.
See you later...
Anomoly..
anomaly
a·nom·a·ly [ ə nómməlee ] (plural a·nom·a·lies)
noun
Definitions:
1. irregularity: something that deviates from the norm or from expectations
"looking for anomalies in the blood tests"
2. peculiarity: something strange and difficult to identify or classify
"The space probe has encountered an anomaly."
I never thought that to be an esoteric word...
a·nom·a·ly [ ə nómməlee ] (plural a·nom·a·lies)
noun
Definitions:
1. irregularity: something that deviates from the norm or from expectations
"looking for anomalies in the blood tests"
2. peculiarity: something strange and difficult to identify or classify
"The space probe has encountered an anomaly."
I never thought that to be an esoteric word...
google it.
Originally Posted by dizzyj
what the **** is retretical. and ya your right your killing time ( with me - thats not nice)
It is Rhetorical
Thanks, Missy, that is more like it...
I could argue etymology all day, but would it keep me from being bad? Well, I guess it might! It's gonna be a tough week...
Thanks for the well wishes. I am a realist, and I know this is going to be hard.
Thanks for the well wishes. I am a realist, and I know this is going to be hard.
Yep, early sobriety is tough. But you know it gets easier, unlike drinking, that seems to just get worse!!
I go to AA, so that's really all I know as a recovery program. Sorry I can't be of more help. What I do know, is my life is alot better without the booze!!
It's definately worth it to work through those tough times without drinking!!
I go to AA, so that's really all I know as a recovery program. Sorry I can't be of more help. What I do know, is my life is alot better without the booze!!
It's definately worth it to work through those tough times without drinking!!
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