A different topic, maybe. Prohibition.
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Originally Posted by EndGameNYC 
The drive and desire to eliminate unwanted thoughts, feelings and behaviors, as well as the consequences that accrue from them, I think, is not only unrealistic, but does grievous violence to reality and, specifically, to the human condition.
So, in a way, the fact that we can survive inevitably carries with it the potential for excess, destruction, and doom. In my opinion these are some of the reasons why the attempts to eliminate or overly control these desires are utterly unrealistic.
Yes, plenty of wonderful academic, cultural, artistic, etc works about this topic, I won't even list some because they are so abundant. Maybe another one from the film world I would mention is Darren Aronofsky's work. Pretty much everything he has created is about different forms of obsession, addictions, attempts to find a "way out" from these, etc.
As for the "way out" or "solution" - I think seeking this is also an essential part of the human experience, and a universal one. Think about all the different forms of religions and spirituality...
Originally Posted by iggy24
Trying to eliminate the intoxicants or shunnning those who get intoxicated is rather silly. I have seen videos of cougars eat plants laced with DMT. It is currently the most powerful hallucinagen known to man. They are known to do this on a regular basis. i don't think animals have moral or ethical reasons or barriers to why they would seek this or not...I conclude that really we don't either..it's just part of the human experience...natural in every way..
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yes I'm aware that there are addiction gurus that use this substance DMT.. for people who feel they have addiction issues...Dmt gives you an ego loss experience..some would refer to as deeply spiritual. I believe such an experience is obtainable without chemicals..but I don't have any opinion on the substance..i do think the corporate hippie types are making something that is sacred to something trendy though...i don't think if such a technique is used to treat addiction or life in general that it should even be advertised..or made for monetary gain.
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Originally Posted by bunnezjp
How do you think we, as alcoholics would be different today if the 1920s Prohibition Act was still in effect? For countries other than the US, imagine alcohol is prohibited today.
How do you think your addiction would be any different, if at all?
For me, alcohol is a drug of convenience. Its everywhere, and not terribly expensive. However, I wonder if the substance, just being illegal and more inconvenient to get would have been enough to avoid it. "Cunning, baffling and powerful" may have applied more.
Thoughts?
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How do you think your addiction would be any different, if at all?
For me, alcohol is a drug of convenience. Its everywhere, and not terribly expensive. However, I wonder if the substance, just being illegal and more inconvenient to get would have been enough to avoid it. "Cunning, baffling and powerful" may have applied more.
Thoughts?
Bunnez
Booze was readily available in the US during prohibition - very few barriers. Just ask the Kennedy clan - Seagrams. It's how they made their fortune......Many, many places to get booze and readily accepted. What we have learned and are still wrapping our heads around is you cannot and never will legislate morality.
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Originally Posted by iggy24
i don't think if such a technique is used to treat addiction or life in general that it should even be advertised..or made for monetary gain.
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Originally Posted by Hawks
Have you ever heard the late comedian Bill Hicks talk about his mushroom experiences??
― Bill Hicks
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Originally Posted by haennie
Well, there is also the tourism associated with this. Resorts in countries where DMT is legal, attracting people in an organized way to participate in "traditional ceremonies" for healing, spiritual awakening, etc. There will always be some that try to use these kinds of substances and ideas for financial gain, yet another part of human nature.
this i just a prejudice of mine..but i wish these types would stay far away from these native communities and stay in Manhattan or San Francisco if they want to open such a place...which they do too..even though it's illegal
If they want to go to the rain forest. go alone..with no agenda..tell your friends you are going to see machuu pichuu or something...don't bring the discovery channel network with you
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Here's a link to those video's. Ken Burns's Prohibition -- coming to PBS | Sneak Peek | PBS - YouTube
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