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Old 04-29-2014, 07:55 PM
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Good enough advice .

I try to not come across as an arrogant expert .

I hope I don't , but doing research is my other long term habit .

If they want me ill go , but ill losen up the group first with something like "They wanted a speaker with some knowledge , that person was busy so yall got me "
Sorry but you now have to endure the ramblings of a lunatic for 30 minutes , but coffee and asprin will be served to lessen the pain "

On a more serious note ,most people wont speak to a group of people ,and most have not done the research I have .

I did not invent the material ,just studied it trying to help one drunk -ME
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Good enough advice .

I try to not come across as an arrogant expert .

I hope I don't , but doing research is my other long term habit .

If they want me ill go , but ill losen up the group first with something like "They wanted a speaker with some knowledge , that person was busy so yall got me "
Sorry but you now have to endure the ramblings of a lunatic for 30 minutes , but coffee and asprin will be served to lessen the pain "

On a more serious note ,most people wont speak to a group of people ,and most have not done the research I have .

I did not invent the material ,just studied it trying to help one drunk -ME
Are you aware of the passage in the Big Book about knowledge

BB More About Alcoholism, p.39
But the actual or potential alcoholic, with hardly an exception, will be absolutely unable to stop drinking on the basis of self-knowledge.


karate, I am really sorry to say this but you are going to speak in front of people who have long term sobriety, who can recite the Big Book back and forth who have worked the steps and who also have experience being sponsored and sponsoring others and living life on life's terms sober.

You are going in there with 3 weeks sober and are going to give them your scientific theory ? You don't even have enough time to prove that your scientific theory works.

You said it yourself, they want someone to speak on the steps. What experience do you have working the steps.

If you relapsed I would think you are on step 1. But you said you don't go to meetings, just read the book. Do you have a sponsor?

I am not saying this to hurt you, I am warning you that your so called scientific speech may not be so well received and some of those old timers just may call you on your stuff. Especially at 3 weeks sober.

Are you prepared for that?
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I talked to one of the old timers .I told him I had tried some controlled drinking and failed at it .

BUT - had quit on my own with the aid of a website (here )
And some research /knowledge .

He asked if I would be a guest speaker on open meeting night - I said im not qualified ,but he persisted on it .
Every meeting is autonomous and so if you've been invited to speak at an open AA meeting, so be it. I would think your experience of failure with controlled drinking would be of interest to many at an open meeting. Your experience can help others more understand their own challenges with drinking.

I also agree things might become a bit off if you talk about what you have researched. AA is not much interested about outside issues, and so such talks can become awkward.

In any case, good on YOU Karate for wanting to help out and at the same time help yourself.

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I talked to one of the old timers .I told him I had tried some controlled drinking and failed at it .
I did that a few times and it also did not work well for me

your story told hopefully will keep someone that's listening

from making our same mistake

good luck with your message to be delivered

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Old 04-29-2014, 11:46 PM
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your story told hopefully will keep someone that's listening from making our same mistake
I WILL help me from making the same mistake... yet AGAIN.
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Old 04-30-2014, 02:00 AM
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Originally Posted by karate View Post
If they want me ill go , but ill losen up the group first with something like "They wanted a speaker with some knowledge , that person was busy so yall got me "Sorry but you now have to endure the ramblings of a lunatic for 30 minutes , but coffee and asprin will be served to lessen the pain "

On a more serious note ,most people wont speak to a group of people ,and most have not done the research I have .

I did not invent the material ,just studied it trying to help one drunk -ME
Can I give you some advise. Try not to have a speech planned. I did this for my first and second lead. It does not work out the way you think it will.

The experience you share is your personal experience and it needs to come from the heart not from the mind. Research is great. I love Google and looking things up from time to time but I personally don't want to hear about someone else's experience researching alcoholism or blood sugar levels. I am sure there are many in that room who have already Googled the subject to death.

I want to hear about what happened to you. Start me with your first drunk and tell me what happened. I do not need a humorous antidote or a drunkalogue to hear your story or feel your pain. I want to hear about how and why you decided to stop drinking and what you did to recover.

There is nothing wrong with referring to another speaker or even a book that has helped you but again, tell me how it helped you. What did you get out of it that I may be able to get out of it?

IMO anyone that is sober, even a day, can share their experience and help a fellow alcoholic. You don't have to know it all to share what you know. The point is to share what you know personally, not what you looked up or researched. "Personal" experience is the key word here.
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Old 04-30-2014, 06:29 AM
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carbohydrates make you feel good. want a beer ? eat a banana instead! still want one? have another one. go on its ok eat as many as you want I should know i put down 70lbs on average a week
WOW! Whatever works but personally I chose the ice cream sundae route. The great thing is it worked for me.

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Old 04-30-2014, 04:13 PM
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Yeah, Karate, maybe instead of sharing your research at an AA meeting, you might want to just go to a few meetings regularly and listen to the experience, strength and hope of others who have gone before you.

I admire your willingness, but unless you are just going to share about how you realized three weeks ago your controlled drinking experience failed and you decided to come to a few meetings to learn, you're probably not going to be very well received.

That said, if it's an open meeting and you were asked by someone with some longtime sobriety to share you blood sugar information, go for it. Good luck.

I think the most powerful speakers are newcomers who come in, qualify as an alcoholic, share how they've failed to remain sober and sit down.
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Old 05-01-2014, 11:27 AM
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I guess I should have posted this before ,But I have a friend 3 years sober ,avid AA er

We talk several times a week , my "sponsor " of sorts I guess .
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