Im returning to my old AA group ,
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Im returning to my old AA group ,
I talked to one of the old timers .I told him I had tried some controlled drinking and failed at it .
BUT - had quit on my own with the aid of a website (here )
And some research /knowledge .
He asked if I would be a guest speaker on open meeting night - I said im not qualified ,but he persisted on it .
I want to use some of the knowledge I learned on the psysical symptopms of craving ,and my own controlled drinking experiment .
So in about 3 weeks -I guess im the guest speaker -if the rest of the members approve it .
Im going to sit down with the oldtimer ,to make sure the talk is approiate for
What we are trying to get across .
I don't want my speech to make anyone have the wrong idea on anything .
The psysical craving and low blood sugar are the focus of the core of the speech .
I think if someone understands the cravings -can be triggered by low blood sugar ,it might help .
And at the very least if someone tried my Gatorade /powerade craving solution . No way it could harm them -it might help .
BUT - had quit on my own with the aid of a website (here )
And some research /knowledge .
He asked if I would be a guest speaker on open meeting night - I said im not qualified ,but he persisted on it .
I want to use some of the knowledge I learned on the psysical symptopms of craving ,and my own controlled drinking experiment .
So in about 3 weeks -I guess im the guest speaker -if the rest of the members approve it .
Im going to sit down with the oldtimer ,to make sure the talk is approiate for
What we are trying to get across .
I don't want my speech to make anyone have the wrong idea on anything .
The psysical craving and low blood sugar are the focus of the core of the speech .
I think if someone understands the cravings -can be triggered by low blood sugar ,it might help .
And at the very least if someone tried my Gatorade /powerade craving solution . No way it could harm them -it might help .
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Thanks all .
A friend said a talk on the psysical symptoms would not be allowed in his group .
A speaker ,must be only focused on step work .
A talk on the "mechanics " of drinking would not be allowed in his group .
A friend said a talk on the psysical symptoms would not be allowed in his group .
A speaker ,must be only focused on step work .
A talk on the "mechanics " of drinking would not be allowed in his group .
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Originally Posted by karate 
Thanks all .
A friend said a talk on the psysical symptoms would not be allowed in his group .
A speaker ,must be only focused on step work .
A talk on the "mechanics " of drinking would not be allowed in his group .
A friend said a talk on the psysical symptoms would not be allowed in his group .
A speaker ,must be only focused on step work .
A talk on the "mechanics " of drinking would not be allowed in his group .
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Thanks everyone ,The article I have posted here as a link .
My friend ,who is the brightest fellow I know .
He said it runs contrary to AA "s 12 approach .
He has not read the article though .
It makes a point of the allergy ,and its effect on alcoholics bodies and minds .
My friend has also not read the article ,I will send him a link .
I guess its just how my own brain works , but im fact /research based .
I think if the issues in our own spiritual lives are addressed ,AND we know why our bodies react to alcohol in a different way than the general public .
Its just another tool in the fight we deal with .
Knowledge is power ,The same reason dictators have historically burned books , Liberals control the media , and Slaves in the early part of the U.S. were not allowed to read .
What my goal is - If I can reach ONE person with the fact approach and they EAT and not pick up alcohol . Its a WIN .
My friend ,who is the brightest fellow I know .
He said it runs contrary to AA "s 12 approach .
He has not read the article though .
It makes a point of the allergy ,and its effect on alcoholics bodies and minds .
My friend has also not read the article ,I will send him a link .
I guess its just how my own brain works , but im fact /research based .
I think if the issues in our own spiritual lives are addressed ,AND we know why our bodies react to alcohol in a different way than the general public .
Its just another tool in the fight we deal with .
Knowledge is power ,The same reason dictators have historically burned books , Liberals control the media , and Slaves in the early part of the U.S. were not allowed to read .
What my goal is - If I can reach ONE person with the fact approach and they EAT and not pick up alcohol . Its a WIN .
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its good ya want to reach at least one person, but ya gotta remember AA deals with the solution as AA sees it.
AA has traditions in place for a reason.
5.Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose-that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.
"its message" being that of AA.
10.No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issues-particularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters they can express no views whatever.
AA has traditions in place for a reason.
5.Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose-that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.
"its message" being that of AA.
10.No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issues-particularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters they can express no views whatever.
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Originally Posted by tomsteve
its good ya want to reach at least one person, but ya gotta remember AA deals with the solution as AA sees it.
AA has traditions in place for a reason.
5.Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose-that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.
"its message" being that of AA.
10.No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issues-particularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters they can express no views whatever.
AA has traditions in place for a reason.
5.Each Alcoholics Anonymous group ought to be a spiritual entity having but one primary purpose-that of carrying its message to the alcoholic who still suffers.
"its message" being that of AA.
10.No A.A. group or member should ever, in such a way as to implicate A.A., express any opinion on outside controversial issues-particularly those of politics, alcohol reform, or sectarian religion. The Alcoholics Anonymous groups oppose no one. Concerning such matters they can express no views whatever.
One part of the article I want to give the talk on makes direct refrence to AA and the idea that alocholics are allergic to alcohol .
IMO -the article reinforces a lot of things the big book says , in the doctors opinion section .
If my idea is wrong or out of line ,id like to know .
I am not trying to start a fight with you ,these are legitimate questions .
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when people give an AA talk, they share their experience,strength, and hope. or what it used to be like, what happened, and what its like now.
discussing how blood sugar is effected by alcohol doesn't seem like speaker material.
you should go to the meeting and take it up there and see what the group says.
GC at my HG has determined that a speaker should have at least one year of sobriety and worked the steps. a "speech" on the effects of low blood sugar on cravings wouldnt fly at my HG either.
ya may want to think about this. not too many farmers would like to listen to someone whose been around dirt their whole lives but actually farming for 2 weeks or so give a speech or discussion on farming.
discussing how blood sugar is effected by alcohol doesn't seem like speaker material.
you should go to the meeting and take it up there and see what the group says.
GC at my HG has determined that a speaker should have at least one year of sobriety and worked the steps. a "speech" on the effects of low blood sugar on cravings wouldnt fly at my HG either.
ya may want to think about this. not too many farmers would like to listen to someone whose been around dirt their whole lives but actually farming for 2 weeks or so give a speech or discussion on farming.
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Besides "experience, strength and hope", this article tells me why the AA symbol is a triangle:
A.A. Recovery - The Missing Piece: The Spiritual Malady
A.A. Recovery - The Missing Piece: The Spiritual Malady
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ya may want to think about this. not too many farmers would like to listen to someone whose been around dirt their whole lives but actually farming for 2 weeks or so give a speech or discussion on farming.
Good point .
Good point .
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I am a bit confused. karate , Don't you have less than a month sober?
Someone asked you to be the speaker at an AA meeting?
I am referring to your post below at the beginning of the month. You were
not even attending meetings according to this post or sober. Is anyone
else confused here or is it just me?
Where I live, speakers need at least 1 yr sober to speak . And are actually
members, I mean they attend meetings..
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post4567723
Someone asked you to be the speaker at an AA meeting?
I am referring to your post below at the beginning of the month. You were
not even attending meetings according to this post or sober. Is anyone
else confused here or is it just me?
Where I live, speakers need at least 1 yr sober to speak . And are actually
members, I mean they attend meetings..
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post4567723
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I think it's great you are returning to this meeting as a guest speaker or whatever. I like that you are embracing sobriety. I think AA will be great for you even if it is just this guest spot...perhaps you will want to go back more often?
Good luck. My recommendation is be honest, share your experience and don't try to come across an expert just what has worked and what has not. I would tend not to focus on the low blood sugar, maybe how the controlled drinking experiment failed...my guess is most will be able to relate.
Good luck.
Good luck. My recommendation is be honest, share your experience and don't try to come across an expert just what has worked and what has not. I would tend not to focus on the low blood sugar, maybe how the controlled drinking experiment failed...my guess is most will be able to relate.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by deeker
I am a bit confused. karate , Don't you have less than a month sober?
Someone asked you to be the speaker at an AA meeting?
I am referring to your post below at the beginning of the month. You were
not even attending meetings according to this post or sober. Is anyone
else confused here or is it just me?
Where I live, speakers need at least 1 yr sober to speak . And are actually
members, I mean they attend meetings..
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post4567723
Someone asked you to be the speaker at an AA meeting?
I am referring to your post below at the beginning of the month. You were
not even attending meetings according to this post or sober. Is anyone
else confused here or is it just me?
Where I live, speakers need at least 1 yr sober to speak . And are actually
members, I mean they attend meetings..
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ml#post4567723
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Deek, In my HG meetings and others I've attended the leader is chosen by the Secretary. The leader shares their ES&H for about 10 minutes in front of the group. At Speaker Meetings that person shares for most of the hour (minus readings & business matters).
The longer I've been in recovery the more I tend to want to hear from folks with some time. We've all got our horror stories, but I want to learn what they do today to maintain long term sobriety. Just my opinion.
. Bobbi
The longer I've been in recovery the more I tend to want to hear from folks with some time. We've all got our horror stories, but I want to learn what they do today to maintain long term sobriety. Just my opinion.
. Bobbi
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