12 step founded during Seance???WTH...really?

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09-17-2013, 02:19 PM

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SmilingFaces

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I found it on a website called listverse initially

Like I said , I don't mean to hinder anyone's sobriety, so ill leave it at that(just something I ran across -and found interesting) anyways good luck, have a great day , stay sober, and God Bless.

09-17-2013, 02:43 PM

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LadyBug66

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I'm glad you did! It sure has given me things to ponder! Thank you for sharing!

09-17-2013, 02:45 PM

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Dee74

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Lets have no more calling people 'trolls' please.

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09-17-2013, 02:51 PM

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I decided to search for the sources of some of the unattributed quotes made in the original post. I got as far as finding that some of it is from the “orange papers”...(a viciously anti AA site). Nuf sed

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I investigated the assertions in the original post further, and found it to be full of half-truths. I would be interested to hear what you found useful when you investigated freshstart. Please share.

The same information posted by OP is found in the sources I quoted. Google was great at finding them. That 'vicious anti AA site' also provides primary references, quotes from witnesses, like Lois Wilson and Francis Hartigan.

If you need more help, please send me a pm. Arguing truth of this historical recounting just detracts from OP.

09-17-2013, 02:59 PM

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I was leaving this open in case someone had actually read something, but it looks like all this rests on secondary internet cites.

The OP wants to leave it there, so ..we will