Would someone please say something!
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I never liked to drink one drink plain and simple. I don't drink at all now.
It's not so much I can't stop at 1 (I can't), but I don't want to. I really don't want to. I want to get wasted. I've never seen the value in drinking 1/2/3 drinks at a sitting. This want comes from the very core of my existence.
Then I pay for it dearly in ways that are tough to explain. Then to reward my pain and suffering from the night of drinking, I drink much more.
I don't drink and I won't ever drink again.
BTW, drinking 1 drink seems like a total waste of a day. One drink and feel like crap. Can't exercise as you've already screwed up your heart rate for the day. Can't go to work. Can't drive a vehicle. etc...
If you have a problem with alcohol, I recommend you don't drink and do whatever you can do to get those demons out of your head that say you can.
It's not so much I can't stop at 1 (I can't), but I don't want to. I really don't want to. I want to get wasted. I've never seen the value in drinking 1/2/3 drinks at a sitting. This want comes from the very core of my existence.
Then I pay for it dearly in ways that are tough to explain. Then to reward my pain and suffering from the night of drinking, I drink much more.
I don't drink and I won't ever drink again.
BTW, drinking 1 drink seems like a total waste of a day. One drink and feel like crap. Can't exercise as you've already screwed up your heart rate for the day. Can't go to work. Can't drive a vehicle. etc...
If you have a problem with alcohol, I recommend you don't drink and do whatever you can do to get those demons out of your head that say you can.
Laozi Old Man
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Originally Posted by Aegian 
To an alcoholic, 'a drink' is like going to the golf course and playing 'a hole' as opposed to 'a round'.
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They don’t sell beer on Sunday here, I could have 3-5 beers in the fridge and wouldn’t drink any because I didn’t have enough to do the job, sad but true, many Saturdays I’d buy my Sunday beer just to drink them on Saturday night, leaving only a few for Sunday. When Monday came around I’d have extra, come Tuesday morning I was out. There’s no such thing as extra beer, and there’s no way I’d drink just a one, I could of course but it would be pointless.
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Not one logical answer out of any of you... not one.
This is why 98% of the people who go to AA do not ever get the help they need because it is overwelmed with dogmatic liars. The BB contradicts itself continuuly and no one is brave enough to admit it... I guess it is because y'all are just so powerless. Oh well.
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There is no need to rant on and on about AA or SR members who are offering support to you.
you may require medical assistance to get to the root of your issues...we are not a medical site.
Takeing the AA literature at face value is something that is not working for you...but causeing distress.
We are also not into book reviews..
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I can stop at one drink as long as the drink is a quart of straight liquer. Less than that it's not worth getting started. After I had that much I would be physically miserable - so what would be the point?
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[QUOTE=T5hlP5;3125552]Itake one drink and stop. Actually, the Big Book contradicts itself by saying there are cases in which someone stops for a long time (25 years) and then drinks and is dead in 4 years and then there is someone who puts whiskey in his milk and goes on a binge and ends up in a sanitarium.
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To be honest I do not get the whole paragraph up there, but I agree with the above comments,,,,,,,, I can also just have one drink and stop and I also have tried it many times over many months where I would have one or two or three and then nothing for two weeks then some again over a weekend then nothing, but 6months or more down the track it would catch me on a full blown relapse and have me do crazy things that a sober me would not even fathom to do...........but then again I can;t say that maybe after 5 years of sobriety I can;t just have the one drink and never fully relapse again.......only you yourself can know...
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To be honest I do not get the whole paragraph up there, but I agree with the above comments,,,,,,,, I can also just have one drink and stop and I also have tried it many times over many months where I would have one or two or three and then nothing for two weeks then some again over a weekend then nothing, but 6months or more down the track it would catch me on a full blown relapse and have me do crazy things that a sober me would not even fathom to do...........but then again I can;t say that maybe after 5 years of sobriety I can;t just have the one drink and never fully relapse again.......only you yourself can know...
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Originally Posted by T5hlP5
Not one logical answer out of any of you... not one.
... I guess it is because y'all are just so powerless. Oh well.
... I guess it is because y'all are just so powerless. Oh well.
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- "Releasing the Bonds: Empowering People to Think for Themselves" by Steven Hassan
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Got it I'm wrong got it ok jokes on me.
A stops for 25 years and then drinks and is dead.
B puts whiskey in his milk and ends up in a sanitarium.
A can stop.
B can not.
That's the contradiction.
But what y'all are saying is that as long as niether takes the first drink then neither would die or be institutionalized, therefore it is not a contradiction. Got it thank you!
B puts whiskey in his milk and ends up in a sanitarium.
A can stop.
B can not.
That's the contradiction.
But what y'all are saying is that as long as niether takes the first drink then neither would die or be institutionalized, therefore it is not a contradiction. Got it thank you!
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Originally Posted by T5hlP5
A stops for 25 years and then drinks and is dead.
B puts whiskey in his milk and ends up in a sanitarium.
A can stop.
B can not.
That's the contradiction.
B puts whiskey in his milk and ends up in a sanitarium.
A can stop.
B can not.
That's the contradiction.
A quit before he lost the power of choice, the first time.
B lost the power of choice long ago.
A went back to drinking and lost the power of choice in less than 4 years.
The point of A's story was to show that 25 years of abstinence did not return him to square one. He started back up exactly where he left off.
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Originally Posted by MickeyAnMeisce
Either alcoholics can stop...or they can't. If alcoholics can't stop, A is not and could never be an alcoholic. If alcoholics can stop, a could have been an alcoholic.
A - Quit before the straws he had acquired, broke his back.
B - Already acquired the last straw that broke his back.
A - Started adding more straws and then broke his back.
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These sorts of scenarios never occur to me. Maybe I don't get it because I'm not an AA person.
But why worry about it? Find what works for you and run with it, and let others do the same.
Usually I am all in favor of analyzing things, looking from all angles, etc. But in this journey I've found that overthinking things just drags me down.
But why worry about it? Find what works for you and run with it, and let others do the same.
Usually I am all in favor of analyzing things, looking from all angles, etc. But in this journey I've found that overthinking things just drags me down.
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Originally Posted by Vlad
If you're powerless against the waves, why would you swim in the ocean?
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I too can have just one and stop. I often did this to prove that I could do it. I could also drink two or three and stop. But that was harder to do for me than to stop at one. And even stopping at one was harder than stopping at none. I'm lazy. I took the easy way out. None.
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Originally Posted by juststopit
does anyone else feel like T5hlP5 dropped a bomb and then walked away?
Originally Posted by least
Goodbye.
agreed Least... just another attempt to stir the pot by someone who went to AA, didn't work the program and left and it now resentful and bitter.
T5hlP5, you seem to think you know a lot about AA, it's of no consequence to me. I hope you know more about sobriety though, if you're an alkie.
Rather than trying to find fault with something you don't really understand or use (AA), perhaps you'd be better off posting what DOES work for you and try to help someone else. Attempts at philosophical discussions with a group of alcoholics, drug abusers, addicts and heavy drinkers almost never goes anywhere positive. Lots of mental ego flexing, posturing and bull-*hit........and that crap doesn't do anything to benefit anyone's sobriety - not that I've ever seen.
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