Why do people think there are principles behind each step?
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Originally Posted by Realest 
That hurt my head to read that
this is a better place to ask than asking google,siri, or alexa.
now, back to bacon this morning.
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Originally Posted by tomsteve
this is a better place to ask than asking google
Also just my two cents and I'm not sure I'm answerimg Ops thoughts but I believe I'm staying on topic. I find there are several principles in each step and I didn't do well saying just hope was step 2's spiritual principle.
Another thing I noticed was that the willingness I needed in step two was different from the willingness I needed in step 3, 6, and 8.
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I have never focused on the principles, but I read them when I run across them at the end of the 12 and 12.
I am not a BB or 12 and 12 historian, but I have been reading them for most of my adult life.
I have never participated in recovery podcasts or watched many recovery presentations on youtube.
Thus, I haven't listened to many Joe and Charlie tapes and I hadn't heard about Mark Houston until I read this thread.
If I was retired (and not just tired), I would probably listen to youtube recovery presentations and podcasts.
So the recovery I get is in those 2 seminal books that I read and re-read.
As a lawyer, I have a penchant for reading the law.
I may read legal commentary as well, but the law itself is what the person with the black robe looks at, so I focus on the law.
As a recovering person, I instinctively go to the source documents and accept them as the program.
Perhaps I'm doing things wrong - I'm always open to suggestions.
I plan to look at the principles a little more critically to see what I have been missing.
They may constitute good meditation material.
I like the way Tomsteve applies them to the 12 steps.
I am not a BB or 12 and 12 historian, but I have been reading them for most of my adult life.
I have never participated in recovery podcasts or watched many recovery presentations on youtube.
Thus, I haven't listened to many Joe and Charlie tapes and I hadn't heard about Mark Houston until I read this thread.
If I was retired (and not just tired), I would probably listen to youtube recovery presentations and podcasts.
So the recovery I get is in those 2 seminal books that I read and re-read.
As a lawyer, I have a penchant for reading the law.
I may read legal commentary as well, but the law itself is what the person with the black robe looks at, so I focus on the law.
As a recovering person, I instinctively go to the source documents and accept them as the program.
Perhaps I'm doing things wrong - I'm always open to suggestions.
I plan to look at the principles a little more critically to see what I have been missing.
They may constitute good meditation material.
I like the way Tomsteve applies them to the 12 steps.
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