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Old 01-13-2019, 12:58 AM   #21 (permalink)
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I used to be a Christian in the trad sense of the word, but due to a lot happening to me 3y ago, I do not follow this premise anymore.

I am still on that journey and it will take time. In the meantime, I focus more on the word 'spirituality', although being a relative newie, am disconnected a lot from this. I just have to stay sober, keep trying to do the next right/best thing, and always try to grow.
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Worth remembering...

The philosophy of Stoicism played a significant part in early Christian beliefs, on which the 12 Steps are based.

The Stoic Virtues are based on exercising practical wisdom,temperance, courage,in dealing with others and ourselves and on being just.

Not to difficult to see then that all these things compliment each other...
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The philosophy of Stoicism played a significant part in early Christian beliefs, on which the 12 Steps are based.

The Stoic Virtues are based on exercising practical wisdom,temperance, courage,in dealing with others and ourselves and on being just.

Not to difficult to see then that all these things compliment each other...

Do the stoic believe in God. I read Seneca letters from a. Stoic. He would sleep on a wooden bed, fast for days. He was hardcore.
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