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Old 03-27-2009, 10:43 PM
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I have mentioned before that I can think my way into a paper bag (or a white jacket with restraints LOL) but for anything to work FOR me, it has to be the simplest possible.

So, I want to tell one story about that, RE:spirituality

Some people are mean spirited, some people are good spirited.
My idea of my spirituality, or my spiritual quest....is to be good spirited.
It's up to me to identify which qualities I define as good-spirited and try to
learn and incorporate them.
Not everyone agrees with my definitions.
That's fine.
I don't always agree with others' definitions.
That's fine.
That's why I am me, and they are not. LOL
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Old 03-28-2009, 12:03 AM
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Thanks. What an excellent post on self-acceptance and tolerance for others' beliefs. These two things make it easier to live life, I think. I should try to practice these things more.
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Old 03-28-2009, 09:04 PM
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Me, Too, Katie!

Tale #2

What I have gotten from the AA programs:
Alot of help with my mental illnesses, i.e.,
I have chemical imbalances.
I must take care to treat them everyday or I will relapse.

A decade ago I went with my then ABF to a few AA meetings in
a vain attempt to get him sober. (LOL)
I heard a man say: "I have another drink in me, but I don't know if
I have another recovery in me."
I found that to be a very startling statement and remembered it.
Today it applies perfectly to my dx of major depressive disorder.
It is a lifetime chemical illness, it is progressive.
The last two severe episodes were so bad that I do not want to ever
go there or worse again. I don't know if I could endure it and get back up.
There is no cure. And I can't afford to forget that fact of life.

That said....thanks so much for your post of therapeutic 12 steps, DK!

I am definitely fatally addicted to cigarettes.
The rest of it? I dunno.
But I was prescribed 7/mg day benzos!!!!
And I have almost detoxed myself off them. AMA.
Not that I would recommend AMA...I just need a new Pdoc!
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Old 03-30-2009, 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by liveweyerd View Post
Me, Too, Katie!

Tale #2

What I have gotten from the AA programs:
Alot of help with my mental illnesses, i.e.,
I have chemical imbalances.
I must take care to treat them everyday or I will relapse.

A decade ago I went with my then ABF to a few AA meetings in
a vain attempt to get him sober. (LOL)
I heard a man say: "I have another drink in me, but I don't know if
I have another recovery in me."
I found that to be a very startling statement and remembered it.
Today it applies perfectly to my dx of major depressive disorder.
It is a lifetime chemical illness, it is progressive.
The last two severe episodes were so bad that I do not want to ever
go there or worse again. I don't know if I could endure it and get back up.
There is no cure. And I can't afford to forget that fact of life.

That said....thanks so much for your post of therapeutic 12 steps, DK!

I am definitely fatally addicted to cigarettes.
The rest of it? I dunno.
But I was prescribed 7/mg day benzos!!!!
And I have almost detoxed myself off them. AMA.
Not that I would recommend AMA...I just need a new Pdoc!
Well, I can definitely relate to a lot of what you post here. I, too, am addicted to cigarettes although taking a pill just to breathe everyday and a steroid inhaler makes me SUPER stupid, I know. I don't know if it's fatal yet, but it sure has reduced my life expectancy. Therefore, even though AA says it's ok to smoke, I disagree vehemently. I could die from an asthma attack. Forget the drinking.

Also, it is true that each clinical depression or what-have-you presents a unique challenge, in that each one seems to get worse. The prognosis ain't all that hot as one ages. The best thing to do is to get on meds, try to stabilize the situation and hope they don't "poop out." For anyone not familiar with this, you can read about it on the Net.

I've done my research and think I know what I'm dealing with. Sounds to me like you've done yours too. What we deal with is very challenging, to say the least.
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i really, really, really wanna quit cigs. i've kicked lots of things but cigs are the hardest.

dammit !!
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Old 03-30-2009, 05:41 PM
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Live~ Thanks for the posts...I understand about simple...I too can make myself dizzy in my head if Im not careful where I put my thoughts.

Thanks again... :ghug3
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Live~ Thanks for the posts...I understand about simple...I too can make myself dizzy in my head if Im not careful where I put my thoughts.

Thanks again... :ghug3
Thanks, vividserenity, it goes beyond this, to say the least. Now, I cannot speak for anyone else, as has been my one sticking point. However, there truly does come a point that is beyond one's reason, and I am getting there fast. Nonetheless, as I always say, I do continue to fight the good fight. That is, after all, all we have. And I AM a fighter, and will always be. Nonetheless, this damn dual diagnnosis **** will kick your ass, exuese my French. It is a hell truly, and only those of us - get it.
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Old 03-30-2009, 07:12 PM
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katie~ not sure what you're saying? I was leaving a message for live... about how I can relate....
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