Having a discussion with à Dr
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Having a discussion with à Dr
On social media saying for 9 dollars à day he can get rid of addiction (ridiculous) I've said once à boundary is crossed there is no going back, I can't believe people actually think this.
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Originally Posted by fishkiller 
Yep
Way too many people looking for the easy way out.
Getting sober ain't easy. . .
Period
Way too many people looking for the easy way out.
Getting sober ain't easy. . .
Period
I agree Mummy that there is no going back once you’ve crossed that line of abusing alcohol. Moderation is a myth.
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye13
. . . but it gets much easier as time passes and you gain skills, tools, and insight into what caused the drinking. . .
Folks like this guy target the newly sober, want to be sober.
Those of us who are doing the work know better.
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It’s also easier if you take time to carefully formulate a sobriety plan that may do all or some of the following:
1. A multi-step first response list of things you will do, in order, to respond to an overwhelming urge to drink.
2. A schedule of your days with lots of things planned—both fun and necessary, so there aren’t blocks of “dead time” where boredom could set in tempting you to drink.
3. Keeping a reflective personal *journal to write privately about your short, medium, and long-range goals, to free write about why you drank, what you might do differently, etc. and for personal accountability for your choices. * This need not be daily, but writing several times a week really helps track what’s going on. I usually wrote most when dealing with insomnia and awake in the middle of the night—it helps to get to sleep to get the thoughts out of your head and on paper.
4. Keeping a calendar to “X” days and also for longer-term goals of weeks / months / years. Not everyone likes to do this but I find it helpful, at least in the beginning as you build confidence.
5. Reach out before drinking and have some connection to other people in recovery community—online, in-person, or both.
Having this kind of structure works much better than a vague “try not to drink” approach. This is part of what fishkiller is talking about when he says doing the work. It is uncomfortable at times, but honestly, I find comfort in the structure which I need less and less as sober time increases.
It’s kind of like you being your own best friend, and supporting yourself in solving this problem with alcohol. You are worth it, and so is your family!
1. A multi-step first response list of things you will do, in order, to respond to an overwhelming urge to drink.
2. A schedule of your days with lots of things planned—both fun and necessary, so there aren’t blocks of “dead time” where boredom could set in tempting you to drink.
3. Keeping a reflective personal *journal to write privately about your short, medium, and long-range goals, to free write about why you drank, what you might do differently, etc. and for personal accountability for your choices. * This need not be daily, but writing several times a week really helps track what’s going on. I usually wrote most when dealing with insomnia and awake in the middle of the night—it helps to get to sleep to get the thoughts out of your head and on paper.
4. Keeping a calendar to “X” days and also for longer-term goals of weeks / months / years. Not everyone likes to do this but I find it helpful, at least in the beginning as you build confidence.
5. Reach out before drinking and have some connection to other people in recovery community—online, in-person, or both.
Having this kind of structure works much better than a vague “try not to drink” approach. This is part of what fishkiller is talking about when he says doing the work. It is uncomfortable at times, but honestly, I find comfort in the structure which I need less and less as sober time increases.
It’s kind of like you being your own best friend, and supporting yourself in solving this problem with alcohol. You are worth it, and so is your family!
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