Contemplating a drink
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Contemplating a drink
Struggling here. Quick backstory...drank wine (about two bottles per day) for several years, with lighter daily drinking before that. Detoxed using a benzo for a couple of weeks. Bad idea. So I believe trying to come off the benzo gave me the very distressing feeling of being choked, a squeezing in my neck. However my dr chalked it up to anxiety and put me back in the benzo. Now I’ve had anxiety most of my life and this has never been one of the symptoms. Stupidly I continued the benzo and really became dependent on it. Well after a couple of hard months I am one month off the benzo, 3 off alcohol and this sensation is still persisting. It is driving me absolutely crazy and has me concerned about heart problems, which has led to more googling and ‘oh look at all the symptoms I have!’ My dr says I’m fine, several Er visits say I’m fine, but my head doesn’t. And all I can think is ‘Well you didn’t have this issue when you were drinking. Maybe a glass of wine is the solution.’
Hi Jaz
I drank for along time - 20 years or so...it took longer than I wanted for me to feel good again after I quit.
I understand benzos can also have a long withdrawal arc sometimes.
Anxiety unfortunately is a condition that can change over time, so it's possible this is anxiety.
It may be something else I've mentioned or something different entirely too - I'm not a dr.
If you're not satisfied with your Drs approach can you get a second opinion from another doctor perhaps?
I think that would be preferable to drinking again.
The inner addict can whisper sweetly but remember all the things that bought you here to SR in the first place.
Drinking over this would be like using a chainsaw to remove a hangnail.
D
I drank for along time - 20 years or so...it took longer than I wanted for me to feel good again after I quit.
I understand benzos can also have a long withdrawal arc sometimes.
Anxiety unfortunately is a condition that can change over time, so it's possible this is anxiety.
It may be something else I've mentioned or something different entirely too - I'm not a dr.
If you're not satisfied with your Drs approach can you get a second opinion from another doctor perhaps?
I think that would be preferable to drinking again.
The inner addict can whisper sweetly but remember all the things that bought you here to SR in the first place.
Drinking over this would be like using a chainsaw to remove a hangnail.
D
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Hi Jaz,
I am sorry that you are having a bad day. Regarding your anxiety I have a close family member who suffers from pretty severe anxiety. She sees both a psychologist and a psychiatrist. As part of her treatment she does take a drug to help her but it's not a benzo its an SSRI class drug. I am being non-specific because we do not provide medical advice here. My point is that you may benefit from seeing some medical professionals who specialize in the treatment of anxiety. There is a lot more to this than just going to your GP and getting a benzo prescription.
You are suffering and want to take action. I get that. The wrong action would be to pick up a drink. A better choice is to seek out focused medical professionals who can help you deal with your anxiety. As an aside have you ever considered meditation?
I hope your condition improves soon.
I am sorry that you are having a bad day. Regarding your anxiety I have a close family member who suffers from pretty severe anxiety. She sees both a psychologist and a psychiatrist. As part of her treatment she does take a drug to help her but it's not a benzo its an SSRI class drug. I am being non-specific because we do not provide medical advice here. My point is that you may benefit from seeing some medical professionals who specialize in the treatment of anxiety. There is a lot more to this than just going to your GP and getting a benzo prescription.
You are suffering and want to take action. I get that. The wrong action would be to pick up a drink. A better choice is to seek out focused medical professionals who can help you deal with your anxiety. As an aside have you ever considered meditation?
I hope your condition improves soon.
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I believe you have what's called globus sensation. I experienced it too a couple of years ago. It's definitely anxiety related. It was awful. I was convinced I had all sorts of medical issues. I could barely sit through a barbers appointment without feeling like I was going to choke. Saw an ENT, general practitioner, counselor, etc. Ended up getting on an SSRI and one day it just went away. It still resurfaces now and then but I'm better equipped to ignore it since I know it's not some disease/cancer.
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There's an enormous difference between anxiety and a panic attack. It often aggravates me how easily the word "panic attack" gets thrown around when people are having basic anxiety. It's basically become a term of expression. I don't believe many people have experienced a true panic attack. To the level where a bullet looks awful good.
Having your throat feel like it's closing up, choking you, making it difficult to breathe. That's one of the symptoms of a real panic attack. It's downright scary, I know. And especially if you don't know what's happening, it only fuels the panic. Any psychiatrist should be able to diagnose that within seconds.
Having your throat feel like it's closing up, choking you, making it difficult to breathe. That's one of the symptoms of a real panic attack. It's downright scary, I know. And especially if you don't know what's happening, it only fuels the panic. Any psychiatrist should be able to diagnose that within seconds.
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It does sound like anxiety.
If you've been to the GP and had several visits to ER and they didn't find anything wrong then you are probably ok physically.
Do you think therapy for anxiety might help?
I've had bad anxiety and therapy was helpful. I'm not keen on benzos. Occasionally I take one and it takes a few days to return to normal. Perhaps your still not fully recovered from the withdrawal.
If you've been to the GP and had several visits to ER and they didn't find anything wrong then you are probably ok physically.
Do you think therapy for anxiety might help?
I've had bad anxiety and therapy was helpful. I'm not keen on benzos. Occasionally I take one and it takes a few days to return to normal. Perhaps your still not fully recovered from the withdrawal.
Yeah, get a second opinion. What you describe tends to sound like one of those things a patient "knows" may be ahead of what your doctor thinks or fails to detect. I really like my doctor. A couple of times doctors have saved my life, but I also know that some of my early premonitions were not showing up in tests, and a month or two later, something, maybe not exactly what I thought, would show up to account for something I already "knew." My relationship with my doctor is more like a dance than a fight. We work together with both of us being skeptics, but both working to help ME.
I don't believe drinking will help you at this point. It's like when something is wrong you get wild ideas like maybe if I drink cocoa for a while, or take more baths, I'll be better. More drinking? That seems even farther out there.
I see all the "drink wine for your health" ideologies as mostly propagnda from the wine industry. Wine is expensive, elegant, varies widely from one type to another, but it's just alcohol, same as the rotgut moonshine for the for the rest of the rabble. Even winos drink wine. That's why they call them winos. Wine in the end, is not that special.
I don't believe drinking will help you at this point. It's like when something is wrong you get wild ideas like maybe if I drink cocoa for a while, or take more baths, I'll be better. More drinking? That seems even farther out there.
I see all the "drink wine for your health" ideologies as mostly propagnda from the wine industry. Wine is expensive, elegant, varies widely from one type to another, but it's just alcohol, same as the rotgut moonshine for the for the rest of the rabble. Even winos drink wine. That's why they call them winos. Wine in the end, is not that special.
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There's an enormous difference between anxiety and a panic attack. It often aggravates me how easily the word "panic attack" gets thrown around when people are having basic anxiety. It's basically become a term of expression. I don't believe many people have experienced a true panic attack. To the level where a bullet looks awful good.
Having your throat feel like it's closing up, choking you, making it difficult to breathe. That's one of the symptoms of a real panic attack. It's downright scary, I know. And especially if you don't know what's happening, it only fuels the panic. Any psychiatrist should be able to diagnose that within seconds.
Having your throat feel like it's closing up, choking you, making it difficult to breathe. That's one of the symptoms of a real panic attack. It's downright scary, I know. And especially if you don't know what's happening, it only fuels the panic. Any psychiatrist should be able to diagnose that within seconds.
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Good morning. I'm no doc. However I am going to lean on thats its a anxiety disorder. But one thing I know for sure is that booze is NOT going to make it better I promise you. Ride ot out get a second opinion. Do whatever just dont booze. I really feel you will regret doing so. Jus sayin. ✌
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If you're not convinced and the GP and ER have failed you (and remember, ER basically just makes sure you're not dying, no heart problems, etc. They aren't diagnosing you. Get you in, get you out), have you considered an ENT? Still sounds like anxiety related, but if you're that concerned, see an ENT and rule out any physical issues from that perspective.
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Probably from anxiety, it would get to a point where I break out in an extremely heavy sweat, it feels like my blood is no longer flowing and if I'm standing I fall right over unconscious!
Hasn't happened in a long time.
I couldn't imagine dealing with my anxiety without running. That does a lot of what alchohol does less the hangover and making it worse the way alchohol does longer term.
Another is breathing and meditation.
I look at what's going on with my body with anxiety, my heart rate and blood pressure and brain waves are increasing. Is it something I can control, why yes, yes it is. I have control of my breathing. I slow it down as much as I can. This slows everything else, long, steady, deliberate exhales can almost feel like an opiate for a few seconds. At least with the lung capacity I have built up it can sort of feel that way.
Hasn't happened in a long time.
I couldn't imagine dealing with my anxiety without running. That does a lot of what alchohol does less the hangover and making it worse the way alchohol does longer term.
Another is breathing and meditation.
I look at what's going on with my body with anxiety, my heart rate and blood pressure and brain waves are increasing. Is it something I can control, why yes, yes it is. I have control of my breathing. I slow it down as much as I can. This slows everything else, long, steady, deliberate exhales can almost feel like an opiate for a few seconds. At least with the lung capacity I have built up it can sort of feel that way.
I had that throat thing when withdrawing from benzo's. Valium, low dose, too. Difficulty swallowing as well. Many people seem to report this symptom. Benzo withdrawal is not for the faint hearted that's for sure.
Now, 10 months off, and this symptom has completely resolved. All docs told me I was fine too.
Drinking will exacerbate the problem, believe me.
Good luck, and congratulations.
Now, 10 months off, and this symptom has completely resolved. All docs told me I was fine too.
Drinking will exacerbate the problem, believe me.
Good luck, and congratulations.
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I had that throat thing when withdrawing from benzo's. Valium, low dose, too. Difficulty swallowing as well. Many people seem to report this symptom. Benzo withdrawal is not for the faint hearted that's for sure.
Now, 10 months off, and this symptom has completely resolved. All docs told me I was fine too.
Drinking will exacerbate the problem, believe me.
Good luck, and congratulations.
Now, 10 months off, and this symptom has completely resolved. All docs told me I was fine too.
Drinking will exacerbate the problem, believe me.
Good luck, and congratulations.
Struggling here. Quick backstory...drank wine (about two bottles per day) for several years, with lighter daily drinking before that. Detoxed using a benzo for a couple of weeks. Bad idea. So I believe trying to come off the benzo gave me the very distressing feeling of being choked, a squeezing in my neck. However my dr chalked it up to anxiety and put me back in the benzo. Now I’ve had anxiety most of my life and this has never been one of the symptoms. Stupidly I continued the benzo and really became dependent on it. Well after a couple of hard months I am one month off the benzo, 3 off alcohol and this sensation is still persisting. It is driving me absolutely crazy and has me concerned about heart problems, which has led to more googling and ‘oh look at all the symptoms I have!’ My dr says I’m fine, several Er visits say I’m fine, but my head doesn’t. And all I can think is ‘Well you didn’t have this issue when you were drinking. Maybe a glass of wine is the solution.’
I also deal with anxiety and I find getting outside for a walk daily and mindfulness techniques like breathing and meditation to remain in the present really helpful.
You can do this, and you don’t need the wine to do it.
Probably from anxiety, it would get to a point where I break out in an extremely heavy sweat, it feels like my blood is no longer flowing and if I'm standing I fall right over unconscious!
Hasn't happened in a long time.
I couldn't imagine dealing with my anxiety without running. That does a lot of what alchohol does less the hangover and making it worse the way alchohol does longer term.
Another is breathing and meditation.
I look at what's going on with my body with anxiety, my heart rate and blood pressure and brain waves are increasing. Is it something I can control, why yes, yes it is. I have control of my breathing. I slow it down as much as I can. This slows everything else, long, steady, deliberate exhales can almost feel like an opiate for a few seconds. At least with the lung capacity I have built up it can sort of feel that way.
Hasn't happened in a long time.
I couldn't imagine dealing with my anxiety without running. That does a lot of what alchohol does less the hangover and making it worse the way alchohol does longer term.
Another is breathing and meditation.
I look at what's going on with my body with anxiety, my heart rate and blood pressure and brain waves are increasing. Is it something I can control, why yes, yes it is. I have control of my breathing. I slow it down as much as I can. This slows everything else, long, steady, deliberate exhales can almost feel like an opiate for a few seconds. At least with the lung capacity I have built up it can sort of feel that way.
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