bunchie

I believe when we start out it is a choice, but overtime after selfishly choosing to drink our brains become hijacked and we become addicted, but we are at fault and we alone can only make the choice of sobriety. AA tells us to invest ourselves in a higher power, that higher power is really your "self", working hard to stay sober.

JoeCree

It took me a while to wrap my head around this, but I look at alcoholism/addiction as an illness, in other words we do NOT have a choice. But, the concept of sobriety and living clean is a choice. So while we cannot control our illness, we CAN control our cure.

nez

When I make an omelette, I don't spend much time considering what came first...the chicken or the egg. I focus on the present and the making of the omelette...the answer to the chicken or egg question... while it would be informative, won't have much impact on what I am doing at the present and the finished product which I am about to enjoy.

matrac

True....doesn’t matter how you got there, the point is to get out.