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Old 01-20-2017, 12:38 AM
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I'm in trouble and I would value support

Dear Friends

I am returning to this forum under a new name. I was in recovery last year and things improved a lot. But I have a big problem. Last weekend I relapsed on my drug of choice, alcohol. When I was quite drunk I ended up going to a place and taking quite a lot of coke. I really almost never take coke and not in that quantity and I'm not used to it. I used my bank card to pay the guy there for some girls and maybe more coke. We just danced and I stayed there all night. Now I've checked my bank account and I can see they've taken thousands from me in a series of transactions. I feel completely gutted. I don't feel I can report it to the police and I don't know what to say to the bank. But it's a huge amount of money and I am not in a position to afford it.

I feel so isolated and ashamed and I don't even know what step to take now.

By the way, that was a week ago and I haven't had a drink or drug since then. Neither have I been to AA or called any of my friends in the fellowship.

Please help to think through the best way to approach this.

I really appreciate your support.
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Old 01-20-2017, 12:54 AM
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Hi - welcome (back)

I think going to the police is about your only recourse. If you're not prepared to do that, or you think you yourself might end up charged with something, you may have to kiss the money goodbye.

I don't actually think the money is your worst problem right now.

It's an expensive lesson to be sure, but probably well worth it if gets you to admit that your life is pretty much unmanageable with drink or drugs?

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Old 01-20-2017, 01:04 AM
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Dee thanks for this. I think you're right. This is a wake up call and it provides a great reminder that my life is unmangable when I go off on a drinking bender. I just looked up the website for the local police and it appears the first thing to do is to tell the bank.

So far as I can see, I couldn't be charged with the crime of taking a drug in someone's company a week ago. I didn't take any drugs away from the place.
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Old 01-20-2017, 01:43 AM
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Hi Learninganew

As Dee says, this could be a very expensive wake-up call (I have no idea whether you stand any chance of getting any of that money back), but one that could pay you back hugely if this really was the end of drink and drug use.

What stops you contacting your AA fellowship friends?
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Old 01-20-2017, 02:24 AM
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Look for comparable cases on the internet, mayve you can find some legal stuff on this.

Then, look at your signatures on the Credit Card receipt / bills. Is your signature cleary to recognize as "off", indicating you have been toxicated. How do the bills sum up? Do they match the credit card statement? Do you even have those bills?

If the bills sum up with the amount on your statement, your signature is clearly readable, well, then, this might be in fact a valueable, but expensive lesson and maybe a couple of years from now, you will perceive that as a turning point.

If not, there are three ways to go. To the guy directly, to your credit card company, and to the police.

Good Luck!
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Old 01-20-2017, 05:38 AM
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Definitely get your bank account number changed.

Hard lesson to learn.

I hope you feel better soon.
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Old 01-20-2017, 05:53 AM
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If for a lost moment you let someone use your ATM card and freely gave them your pin number -- I think you are out of luck.

Here's what I advise if you don't want to go to the cops.
Go to your bank and ask to talk with the bank manager (in private).
Lay your story right out there -- they've heard it all before.
They will know your best options -- if any.
Good luck and stay sober.
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Old 01-20-2017, 06:17 AM
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Do they have the actual card? I'm sure you've already done this but cancel the card and contact the bank. If they have the card then its technically stolen and you can report it as such. Let the bank handle it. Obviously this will involve lying on your part so its up to you whether or not you're good with that in order to potentially get your money back.

Best thing? Close the account. Take the loss. Get some help. But its up to you obviously.
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I'm sorry this happened to you. Let us know how it goes when you contact the bank and the police. I hope you are able to get some assistance.
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..well, I got up one day, logged into the bank account and found I'd been buying mobile phone time in Latvia. And some other places. Then, just for fun, they refunded me $2.50.

Yeah...sure.

Bank refunded the money. They seem to have the attitude that it's cheaper to pay the losses than it is to secure the credit system.

But.....I guess the problem is you spent it. So maybe cancel the card and take the loss.

Bet the girls were fun tho.....
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Old 01-20-2017, 07:44 AM
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I've called the bank and said there are some fraudulent transactions on the card. I am being as honest as I can. If they refund it, good. But the other thing I did was go to an NA meeting today and people were incredibly nice. Actually I didn't say anything about the crazy situation that brought me in there - I think all the other people had probably done the much the same kind of crazy thing.

So, now I've been sober for a week I've decided to give SR another go and to book a few more AA meetings into my diary. I know that worked well for me before.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:21 AM
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Sounds like a good start mate......coke is a fast drug, alcohol a slow one.

Take it slow and easy and peace will return. Us users don't like 'peace, but all end up craving it
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:58 AM
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Go easy Learninganew - if the bank pulls the money back those people may be guys you don't want to cross (and it does sound you were willing rather than unwilling in buying from them), and I imagine you're not too hard for them to trace if they've got your bank details.

Take care of yourself first. Take care of your money second.
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Old 01-20-2017, 08:59 AM
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How awful, was it an ATM card where a pin was entered or signed for? I'm sorry you went through this, but am glad you've sobered up to work through the situation.
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Old 01-20-2017, 09:46 AM
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Man, that is one really tough experience to go through. That is one painful wake up call. As others have said, cancel that card quick and talk to the bank about any illegal use of that card. Maybe you can get some of the money back. Try your best not to let the shame your feeling get in the way of doing what you need to do, both with your sobriety and financially. Shame is like pride. Both can keep us stuck. Make a plan. Stick with it. No excuses. Good luck. John
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Old 01-20-2017, 02:08 PM
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whatever happened to the days of CASH ONLY for illicit transactions? did dude have one of them Square things on his phone? just hard to imagine dealers or, um, dance managers, taking bank cards.

i am very sorry that you are out so much money. but you sort of put yourself directly in harm's way there, bub. and i very much hope this is the BIG wake up call for you......look what "one" drink got you.........
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Old 01-21-2017, 01:22 AM
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Thanks everyone for your support. I spoke to the bank yesterday and they advised me to go to the police. I will think about that but I'm not in any rush to do so. The good thing is that I went to an NA meeting yesterday and then started scheduling in meetings for today and the rest of the week. I'm going to AA at 5pm today. I've also got an AA friend who's being supportive with phone calls and texts.

And I've been sober for a full week now.
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