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Old 11-06-2014, 04:51 PM
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Just noticeable differences

jnds or just noticeable differences are the tiniest differences in level of a stimulus detectable to outside perception. It's a term from psychophysics which is an ultra-cool backwater of psychology.

I'm thinking about jnds because someone, a person in a position of authority who's watched me for a decade, told me today that I'd been to "charm school" over the last 2 years! What he was noticing (maybe without knowing it) were the traces of my recovery, which started almost exactly 2 years ago.

I wonder what specific changes he sees. I know now I sometimes smile, I talk to people, I look them in the eye, of course I don't stink of gin.

What are your just noticeable differences in sobriety?
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Old 11-06-2014, 05:20 PM
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Originally Posted by courage2 View Post
jnds or just noticeable differences are the tiniest differences in level of a stimulus detectable to outside perception. It's a term from psychophysics which is an ultra-cool backwater of psychology.

I'm thinking about jnds because someone, a person in a position of authority who's watched me for a decade, told me today that I'd been to "charm school" over the last 2 years! What he was noticing (maybe without knowing it) were the traces of my recovery, which started almost exactly 2 years ago.

I wonder what specific changes he sees. I know now I sometimes smile, I talk to people, I look them in the eye, of course I don't stink of gin.

What are your just noticeable differences in sobriety?
I have heard many people recognize changes in ourselves before we do. In my brief sobriety, I have heard a few comments from people that are not in recovery nor are aware of what I am going through - You seem different? Did you get haircut? Yea, something has changed - not sure what.

If I had to pick something out, I suppose it would be my eyes. Clear and bright, unred - and focused. I have become much more engaged and attentive as well.

I have been using snake oil lately though, perhaps it's that as well!

Good topic Courage!
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I've had a couple of people who have no idea that I quit comment that I look 'fresh'. It was funny actually b/c I could tell they were searching for the right description. Fresh seems to fit how I feel
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I'm more "present" and alert... More pleasant to be around I'm sure... More upbeat and outgoing... And definitely less forgetful.

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Old 11-06-2014, 08:36 PM
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I keep my inner dialog to myself. Before, if I didn't like someone, people would know why and how and yada yada. Now, I may think that so and so is a such and such, but I don't say it. Still feel bad for thinking it though.

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Some more jnds for me in sobriety --

In talking, I don't lose my train of thought mid-sentence anymore.
If you run into me early in the morning, I don't have the shakes.
If you visit my office, you won't see any highball or shot glasses on my shelves.
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Definitely less silly mistakes... in work and home life. Less little kitchen accidents as well.
My care factor has greatly improved over all, that is really nice...
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The biggest one for me is that I realized I actually have the ability to love myself and others.

Oops...they're supposed to be the tiniest differences ....boy did I eff that one up lol :\
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my official quit is July 21 too! I've been around since January, but had to go and get into trouble in order to start to make this stick...
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Less little kitchen accidents as well.
Oh yes LOL! Me and can openers had bad problems.

And I forgot to mention that I'm a lot stronger physically and have visibly better muscle tone and posture.
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A colleague of mine used to comment, on a fairly regular basis, that I looked "tired." This used to really annoy me, as I was then trying to keep up a normal facade... Perhaps, in retrospect, she was trying to clue me in that something was noticeably wrong.

Know what? After my 2+ sober years, she doesn't ever say that about me anymore!
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Old 11-07-2014, 12:57 AM
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I am much more patient.
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Hair and skin feel clean and healthy (if that makes sense)
Im also feeling more emotion and not just numb all the time.
I have to ask myself why it took this long to get sober, I guess i just wasnt ready
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Posted this before, I think, but, after just a week of recovery I spent the evening with a group of friends. Sober, it was so much easier to engage with people, to be genuinely interested, and to be funny. Later when I got home, I got a text from one of the people there, and she just said how good it was to see me, and what great company I had been. That had NEVER happened before, and it put me on cloud nine, I can tell you.

A brilliant thread.
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My daily routine of leaving the house has been truncated - improved memory! Typically ole fly would have walked in and out of the house at least 4 -5 times every morning before departing. Keys, rats - phone, damn - that letter I was gonna mail, son of a ..... pants? - Well, check!

Now I am able to have a mental check list and gather most everything at once. Cut my the morning in and out down to 1.5 times I would say on average. My wife threaten to get a pet door......

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I forgot about this and I don't know how I forgot about it... My legs used to swell like crazy after an eventful weekend (weekend binge drinker here). Haven't had that in a long time now.

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I can process how I am feeling better. I don't swing between such high highs and low lows.
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