Staying out of bars or not?
I spent over a decade as a bartender and one thing I learned was this:
Bars are terrible places to socialize. The social activity there is relentlessly low grade and dumber than dumb.
If you REALLY want to socialize a bar is the absolute worst place to go.
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This may sound harsh but I really only found decent socializing outside of bars - and I was a pro!
Bars are terrible places to socialize. The social activity there is relentlessly low grade and dumber than dumb.
If you REALLY want to socialize a bar is the absolute worst place to go.
If you're in the US you could try this web site or a thousand other places.
Find Meetup groups near you - Meetup
This may sound harsh but I really only found decent socializing outside of bars - and I was a pro!
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I spent over a decade as a bartender and one thing I learned was this:
Bars are terrible places to socialize. The social activity there is relentlessly low grade and dumber than dumb.
If you REALLY want to socialize a bar is the absolute worst place to go.
If you're in the US you could try this web site or a thousand other places.
Find Meetup groups near you - Meetup
This may sound harsh but I really only found decent socializing outside of bars - and I was a pro!
Bars are terrible places to socialize. The social activity there is relentlessly low grade and dumber than dumb.
If you REALLY want to socialize a bar is the absolute worst place to go.
If you're in the US you could try this web site or a thousand other places.
Find Meetup groups near you - Meetup
This may sound harsh but I really only found decent socializing outside of bars - and I was a pro!
For me, I know it's safest to generally avoid bars. Sometimes I do go (usually for a work get together) but I wouldn't make it regular. I avoided bars altogether for 6 months, until I was very confident I wouldn't drink any alcohol.
You've gotten a lot of good advice already, i'd add that "bars" is kind of broad term as well. Just like people, every bar is different. Some are pretty much solely designed for people to come and get drunk...I worked in/visited several during my life. You know the ones, all-you-can-drink night, pitcher night, progressive happy hour night - every night some way to get good and liqoured up on the cheap. No food, no games, just stools and lots of bartenders.
Then there are bars that are also restaurants, or music venues, etc. Sometimes the focus of said places ISNT just about getting drunk, and there are actually people who have never drank in their lives who go there to do things other than drink.
Granted I"d probably avoid any of them ( and I did ) for several weeks after quitting initially - but you can probably visit some of the 2nd type at some point in your sobriety. And most likely, you'll find that visiting the first type doesn't even cross your mind anymore.
Most importantly, congrats on Day 3 and your decision to quit. Focus on that now...the social stuff will take care of itself later.
Then there are bars that are also restaurants, or music venues, etc. Sometimes the focus of said places ISNT just about getting drunk, and there are actually people who have never drank in their lives who go there to do things other than drink.
Granted I"d probably avoid any of them ( and I did ) for several weeks after quitting initially - but you can probably visit some of the 2nd type at some point in your sobriety. And most likely, you'll find that visiting the first type doesn't even cross your mind anymore.
Most importantly, congrats on Day 3 and your decision to quit. Focus on that now...the social stuff will take care of itself later.
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You've gotten a lot of good advice already, i'd add that "bars" is kind of broad term as well. Just like people, every bar is different. Some are pretty much solely designed for people to come and get drunk...I worked in/visited several during my life. You know the ones, all-you-can-drink night, pitcher night, progressive happy hour night - every night some way to get good and liqoured up on the cheap. No food, no games, just stools and lots of bartenders.
Then there are bars that are also restaurants, or music venues, etc. Sometimes the focus of said places ISNT just about getting drunk, and there are actually people who have never drank in their lives who go there to do things other than drink.
Granted I"d probably avoid any of them ( and I did ) for several weeks after quitting initially - but you can probably visit some of the 2nd type at some point in your sobriety. And most likely, you'll find that visiting the first type doesn't even cross your mind anymore.
Most importantly, congrats on Day 3 and your decision to quit. Focus on that now...the social stuff will take care of itself later.
Then there are bars that are also restaurants, or music venues, etc. Sometimes the focus of said places ISNT just about getting drunk, and there are actually people who have never drank in their lives who go there to do things other than drink.
Granted I"d probably avoid any of them ( and I did ) for several weeks after quitting initially - but you can probably visit some of the 2nd type at some point in your sobriety. And most likely, you'll find that visiting the first type doesn't even cross your mind anymore.
Most importantly, congrats on Day 3 and your decision to quit. Focus on that now...the social stuff will take care of itself later.
I can do this.....
Honestly, for me to go to a bar and not drink is easier for me to do than stay at home and not drink. Sounds backwards, but I've had a lot of experience being a DD, and so now when I go, its ok.
Sitting home, bored, with the family stress surrounding me? Oh yeah. Huge trigger.
Sitting home, bored, with the family stress surrounding me? Oh yeah. Huge trigger.
Still, I know how you feel. I ask myself how I'll have fun and enjoy a social life. I don't have the exact answer just yet, but I'll figure it out. And frankly, being bored is better than being stinking drunk and acting like a fool.
I think it's different for everyone. I'm at 27 days. I'm single and in my late twenties, so social events tend to involve alcohol and are also a really important part of my social life. My approach from the start has been to add, not subtract, to my social calendar. So I do a lot more sober activities (like movies, bike rides, etc) with friends, but I still attend the parties and bar events that I used to. I know for a lot of people that would be too much temptation... but I felt for me (knowing myself) that the bigger risk would be feeling isolated and left out. And frankly I've had plenty of fun drinking ginger ale at the bar, surprisingly! I may not stay quite as long as I used to, but I don't find it to be too tempting.
I'm wondering whether it is a bad idea to try and continue to socialise in bars on Saturday nights or do I need to start doing different things, going to the movies, etc.
Also how do you find holding dinners for friends? I plan on still doing this and I plan to serve wine and drinks. Is this a no no.
Also how do you find holding dinners for friends? I plan on still doing this and I plan to serve wine and drinks. Is this a no no.
Good friends will understand if you don't want to serve alcohol. I know I wouldn't have as I don't need the extra stress. Maybe in time I can. I'm okay going to a restaurant and if my friend wants a glass of wine, I'm okay with that. However if I told her it bothered me she wouldn't have one.
Yes, I know it is my issue, but in the beginning we need all the support we can get. And really good friends will be supportive and cut us some slack.
I don't hang out in bars, and I don't serve alcohol at my house unless someone brings their own and wants to drink it/share it. I'm a non drinker, I don't have an interest in flirting that closely with something that almost killed me.
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I avoided bars for a long time. Too tempting. For about 3 or 4 years I saw almost every movie that was released in the theater (and still spent far less than I did drinking).
These days I'll go to a bar if with my wife and friends who want to go to a lounge. My wife and friends aren't alcoholic. This rarely happens, but I don't mind. I certainly wouldn't go on my own and sit at the bar for hours nursing a diet Coke.
These days I'll go to a bar if with my wife and friends who want to go to a lounge. My wife and friends aren't alcoholic. This rarely happens, but I don't mind. I certainly wouldn't go on my own and sit at the bar for hours nursing a diet Coke.
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i see and play live music all the time so I'm in bars and clubs frequently. I also enjoy going to nicer places like cool clubs or bar and grills with decent food when my friends are going. As far as 'dive bars' go, I have no interest, and especially if they're places that allow smoking. Since i don't smoke I don't want my clothes reeking of cigarettes. I think everyone's different. Personally, I'm not the least bit tempted when I'm at a bar or have any residual temptations afterwards. I'd say just remain aware of your own thoughts and if it starts to become too much, leave.
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i see and play live music all the time so I'm in bars and clubs frequently. I also enjoy going to nicer places like cool clubs or bar and grills with decent food when my friends are going. As far as 'dive bars' go, I have no interest, and especially if they're places that allow smoking. Since i don't smoke I don't want my clothes reeking of cigarettes. I think everyone's different. Personally, I'm not the least bit tempted when I'm at a bar or have any residual temptations afterwards. I'd say just remain aware of your own thoughts and if it starts to become too much, leave.
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