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You may be one of those people that can just walk away from an addiction....A lot of people can't....I know know I couldn't. I'm not saying AVRT doesn't work either....I see people here that it does work for. But this post looks more like a sales pitch for a book than anything else....And I have a hard time seeing how reading half a book could result in no cravings...No detox...No triggers....etc. I know the work and dedication I had to put into this process for myself...And it wasn't easy. Than again....I have almost 15 months...And not 5 days. If it was this easy...This would be front page news..And it's not. Just shedding a little reality out there for the newcomer. I wish you well with it!
Originally Posted by Jakkolantern 
Hmmm... Read about AVRT on Monday... ordered the 1996 book that night, received it Wednesday. Halfway through so far.
Haven't had a drink since Sunday night. No cravings, no detox... I have to send the voice away occasionally, but nothing serious.
Even though it was a rough 3 years of nightly half bottles of scotch or more (sometimes lots more), perhaps I'm getting out early enough to avoid the real detox.
Discussed it with my counsellor - we have lots to work on. I can't help but ask, "Is it really that simple?" and so far the answer is "yes". But then it's only 5 days so far.
I did avoid a trigger without any trouble. I had to go to a grocery 20 minutes ago because I ran out of cat food. It's right next to a liquor store that sells my scotch.
No problem.
Haven't had a drink since Sunday night. No cravings, no detox... I have to send the voice away occasionally, but nothing serious.
Even though it was a rough 3 years of nightly half bottles of scotch or more (sometimes lots more), perhaps I'm getting out early enough to avoid the real detox.
Discussed it with my counsellor - we have lots to work on. I can't help but ask, "Is it really that simple?" and so far the answer is "yes". But then it's only 5 days so far.
I did avoid a trigger without any trouble. I had to go to a grocery 20 minutes ago because I ran out of cat food. It's right next to a liquor store that sells my scotch.
No problem.
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Originally Posted by Vall
Have you thought of trying cognitive behavioural therapy?
It's interesting... my therapist can empathize with a lot of things I'm saying, especially about childhood. Mine was a social train wreck. The root problem - I was IQ-smart enough that today it's actually considered a special need in children, while socially I was completely unable to function. It didn't go well.
Of course one of us is on the couch and the other in the chair...
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Originally Posted by Sapling
But this post looks more like a sales pitch for a book than anything else....And I have a hard time seeing how reading half a book could result in no cravings...No detox...No triggers....etc.
Not pushing the book either. It's an overly judgemental opinion piece, and I disagree with a great deal of the material. It's only the sliver in the middle that I think is workable for me. A lot of the "conversations" he quotes are completely fictional, serving only to incorrectly lend authenticity to his arguments. I think he's a bit of a crackpot in most areas.
I don't understand the detox thing either. That's physiological, and has nothing to do with reading literature. But I'm thinking it might have something to do with only being 3 years in.
I'm increasingly aware that I'm a baby in the world of alcohol addiction. Some of the stuff I'm reading on this board is putting things in perspective.
As for triggers, I'm keenly aware I'm only 5 days in. It's ridiculous to think the worst isn't ahead.
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As far as detox goes...I drank daily for 35 years....My last two years were constant....I shook so bad if I didn't have alcohol in me that I would have been putting myself at serious risk if I tried it without medical supervision and medication. I'm glad you were spared that.
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Originally Posted by Sapling
I'm glad you were spared that.
My book suggestion from my therapist is "Seeking the Heart of Wisdom: The Path of Insight Meditation" by Joseph Goldstein and Jack Kornfield. I'm off to the bookshop to see if I can't find a copy this afternoon.
It's in the trendy section of town so I'll probably take a walk up and down the street as well, since the weather is still beautiful.
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