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Old 09-15-2006, 11:05 AM
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Angry Enough to Make You MAD !!!

This study has been all over the radio and in the press. You can read it for yourself. It is enough to just tick you off. They don't bother mentioning the issues that it can cause with family, work, money, health, etc.

Anyway, for those of you who want to read here is that article that idicates through being a drinker you will be more successful and make more money.

Read at you own risk :


Drink to success :uzi2:

Thursday September 14, 2006 08:31 - (SA)



Alcohol use helps boost income: study WASHINGTON - People who consume alcohol earn significantly more at their jobs than non-drinkers, according to a US study that highlighted the "social capital" gained from drinking.

The study published in the Journal of Labour Research concluded that drinkers earn 10 to 14 percent more than teetotallers, and that men who drink socially bring home an additional seven percent in pay.

"Social drinking builds social capital," said Edward Stringham, an economics professor at San Jose State University and co-author of the study with fellow researcher Bethany Peters.

"Social drinkers are out networking, building relationships, and adding contacts to their BlackBerries that result in bigger paycheques."

The authors acknowledged their study, funded by the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think tank, contradicted research released in 2000 by the Harvard School of Public Health. "We created our hypothesis through casual observation and examination of scholarly accounts," the authors said.

"Drinkers typically tend to be more social than abstainers."

The researchers said their empirical survey backed up the theory, and said the most likely explanation is that drinkers have a wider range of social contacts that help provide better job and business opportunities.

"Drinkers may be able to socialise more with clients and co-workers, giving drinkers an advantage in important relationships," the researchers said.

"Drinking may also provide individuals with opportunities to learn people, business, and social skills."

They also said these conclusions provide arguments against policies aimed at curbing alcohol use on university campuses and public venues.

"Not only do anti-alcohol policies reduce drinkers' fun, but they may also decrease earnings," the study said.

"One of the unintended consequences of alcohol restrictions is that they push drinking into private settings. This occurred during the Alcohol Prohibition of 1920-1933 and is happening on college campuses today. By preventing people from drinking in public, anti-alcohol policies eliminate one of the most important aspects of drinking: increased social capital."

The researchers found some differences in the economic effects of drinking among men and women. They concluded that men who drink earn 10 percent more than abstainers and women drinkers earn 14 percent more than non-drinkers. However, unlike men, who get a seven percent income boost from drinking in bars, women who frequent bars at least once per month do not show higher earnings than women drinkers who do not visit bars.

"Perhaps women increase social capital apart from drinking in bars," the researchers said in an effort to explain the gender gap.

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Old 09-15-2006, 11:13 AM
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Money doesn't measure quality of life. I will take the paycut before I let my time, myself, my relationships go to hell in a handbasket. I do drink socially.
But I am bailing on my own daughter's bachelorette party tonight, because it will be a drunken spectacle and people will try to buy and push too many drinks on me. And being really drunk is only seemingly fun to the ones drunk, to be sober...it's not any fun watching. I would be miserable.
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one more comment....I wonder what percentage of the income is consumed by keeping up that drinking networking?
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Old 09-15-2006, 11:57 AM
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People who consume alcohol earn significantly more at their jobs than non-drinkers
Sounds like they didn't calculate all the people who are now unemployeed from drinking.
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Old 09-15-2006, 12:19 PM
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I think this is a ridiculous study. Of course the media takes off with it because stories like these generate interest and controversy. They based their conclusions on "casual observation and examination of scholarly accounts". Hmmm. I'd take it with a large grain of salt.

I also take issue with comments like "Drinkers typically tend to be more social than abstainers."

WTF?
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Ten per cent more....Hmmmmm....

So, take my salary, multiply by 10%. Take off income tax, cpp, uic etc and the possibility of being in a higher tax bracket.

If not drinking, take what I spent on booze(more than 10%) and stick it in a bank. Take into account that I don't have to pay tax on this. Save money on antacids, aspirin, lawyers bills, fines, doctors bills.

Perhaps the author of this article would consent to a debate. Seems to me that I'm a winner by far.







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Sounds like they didn't calculate all the people who are now unemployeed from drinking.

Exactly!
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Old 09-15-2006, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Brainiac
This study has been all over the radio and in the press. You can read it for yourself. It is enough to just tick you off. They don't bother mentioning the issues that it can cause with family, work, money, health, etc.

Anyway, for those of you who want to read here is that article that idicates through being a drinker you will be more successful and make more money.

Read at you own risk :


Drink to success :uzi2:

Thursday September 14, 2006 08:31 - (SA)



Alcohol use helps boost income: study WASHINGTON - People who consume alcohol earn significantly more at their jobs than non-drinkers, according to a US study that highlighted the "social capital" gained from drinking.

The study published in the Journal of Labour Research concluded that drinkers earn 10 to 14 percent more than teetotallers, and that men who drink socially bring home an additional seven percent in pay.

"Social drinking builds social capital," said Edward Stringham, an economics professor at San Jose State University and co-author of the study with fellow researcher Bethany Peters.

"Social drinkers are out networking, building relationships, and adding contacts to their BlackBerries that result in bigger paycheques."

The authors acknowledged their study, funded by the Reason Foundation, a libertarian think tank, contradicted research released in 2000 by the Harvard School of Public Health. "We created our hypothesis through casual observation and examination of scholarly accounts," the authors said.

"Drinkers typically tend to be more social than abstainers."

The researchers said their empirical survey backed up the theory, and said the most likely explanation is that drinkers have a wider range of social contacts that help provide better job and business opportunities.

"Drinkers may be able to socialise more with clients and co-workers, giving drinkers an advantage in important relationships," the researchers said.

"Drinking may also provide individuals with opportunities to learn people, business, and social skills."

They also said these conclusions provide arguments against policies aimed at curbing alcohol use on university campuses and public venues.

"Not only do anti-alcohol policies reduce drinkers' fun, but they may also decrease earnings," the study said.

"One of the unintended consequences of alcohol restrictions is that they push drinking into private settings. This occurred during the Alcohol Prohibition of 1920-1933 and is happening on college campuses today. By preventing people from drinking in public, anti-alcohol policies eliminate one of the most important aspects of drinking: increased social capital."

The researchers found some differences in the economic effects of drinking among men and women. They concluded that men who drink earn 10 percent more than abstainers and women drinkers earn 14 percent more than non-drinkers. However, unlike men, who get a seven percent income boost from drinking in bars, women who frequent bars at least once per month do not show higher earnings than women drinkers who do not visit bars.

"Perhaps women increase social capital apart from drinking in bars," the researchers said in an effort to explain the gender gap.

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I was definitely NOT more successful when I drank.
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It sounds to me like a chicken-egg thing. Perhaps people that are more successful tend to be higher profile drinkers. I have seen many surveys like this before on many subject, they are far from scientific, to say the least.

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Old 09-15-2006, 04:49 PM
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This study brought to you by Anheiser-Busch.

Read "Spin Sisters" by Myrna Blyth about media bias. All these studies and articles are usually just a big heap of BS to sell something. Fear creates consumers of products and economic insecurity is probably one of the biggest fears out there.
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Old 09-15-2006, 08:23 PM
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Originally Posted by UnusedPortion
This study brought to you by Anheiser-Busch.

Read "Spin Sisters" by Myrna Blyth about media bias. All these studies and articles are usually just a big heap of BS to sell something. Fear creates consumers of products and economic insecurity is probably one of the biggest fears out there.

BINGO! Where does the "Partnership for a Drug Free America" get a lot of it's funding?

Anheuser-Busch
Phillip Morris Companies, Inc.
RJ Reynolds
American Brands Inc

Pfizer Inc.
Merck & Company, Inc.
Schering-Plough Corp
SmithKline Beecham
Warner-Lambert

... and the list goes on.
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So maybe if I get my hubby to start drinking he will make around 30$ an hour........to bad he hates to drink
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