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Old 05-14-2019, 03:54 PM
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This is a struggle I'm in

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My first post. I had to go away on a school residential with my son two years ago and was so worried I couldn't make the three nights without alcohol after not remembering any clear nights without drinking for the previous 20+ years. I made it ok and so began a journey to cut down, moderate, control it. Iv'e made some headways but the trouble I now have is my anxiety when drinking too much has blossomed - its as if once started down the road to solve the problem there is no going back, my fret wont let me! Im on a journey unresolved and not happy.
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Welcome!

So, I think you're saying you want to continue drinking moderately, but you feel anxious when you do drink? Do you feel anxious because you don't think you'll be able to stop?
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Hello and welcome.
I guess I don't understand your post, either.
Are you saying drinking makes you anxious?
Or are you saying not drinking makes you anxious?
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This place saved my wretched soul.

Booze is poison.

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Old 05-14-2019, 04:58 PM
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Thank You Anna
Correct I want to continue drinking moderatly but my anxiety arises when I drink too much causing worry about my health mostly. I'm not anxious that I cant stop at this stage.
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Have you considered stopping drinking? Maybe your anxiety is trying to tell you something.
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Thank You Ghostlight
Well yes, both
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Welcome to the family. My anxiety pretty much went away after I'd been sober for a while. The after-drinking anxiety was awful. Best thing for me to do was to stop drinking entirely.
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Yes Anna it certainly is. Yes I've considered it and maybe I'm on that road
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I hope you're on the road to sobriety. It's a great place to be.
I know after I quit, my anxiety lessoned a lot. Especially from the days after drinking.
Best to you and I hope you stick around here. There's a lot of great support.
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Yes Anna it certainly is. Yes I've considered it and maybe I'm on that road
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I had bad anxiety for 10 years and used booze to control it most days. Then I discovered that the first time I got sober, after 3 or 4 weeks.....zero anxiety. None at all.

I've heard the story time and again. It's the booze causing your anxiety. Look into the science of it. The booze turns to sugar and spikes your insulin levels until you feed it more booze. And so the cycle continues.
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I think once an addict begins to see their addiction, it is exposed. And drinking with impunity is never really a possibility again. I had a guy tell me in AA a long time ago "AA may not keep you sober, but it will ruin your drinking". So correct. But I remained ambivalent for a long time. Trying to keep making drinking work for me like it once did. Had to finally accept that I can't drink no matter what. And the anxiety goes away. Well at least the kind that is caused by drinking.
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Originally Posted by abgator View Post
I had bad anxiety for 10 years and used booze to control it most days. Then I discovered that the first time I got sober, after 3 or 4 weeks.....zero anxiety. None at all.

I've heard the story time and again. It's the booze causing your anxiety. Look into the science of it. The booze turns to sugar and spikes your insulin levels until you feed it more booze. And so the cycle continues.
It messes with your blood sugar, but it also mimics the inhibitory neurotransmitters in your brain. So your brain responds by releasing more excitatory neurotransmitters and when the alcohol leaves, what's left is the excitatory neurotransmitters. This causes the shakiness, jumpiness, anxiety, and general irritability of withdrawal.

The **** is poison for anything it touches.
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Originally Posted by ThatWasTheOldMe View Post
It messes with your blood sugar, but it also mimics the inhibitory neurotransmitters in your brain. So your brain responds by releasing more excitatory neurotransmitters and when the alcohol leaves, what's left is the excitatory neurotransmitters. This causes the shakiness, jumpiness, anxiety, and general irritability of withdrawal.

The **** is poison for anything it touches.
Yep. The science of it was interesting to me. It helped my anxiety, knowing what was going on instead of thinking it was actual anxiety or that my brain was broken.
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Old 05-15-2019, 07:18 AM
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Appreciate your comments guys thanks.
That's it Entropy1964 "My drinking has been ruined" - until I find a sober/drinking balance I'm happy with or have to give up completely because I cant find the balance.
I had 31/2 months sober last year(Lurking on Sober Recovery gave me strengh!) but always intended to drink again and try moderation. Its not going great. I know this site is predominantly for going permenantly sober so I think I was hasty in speaking up, I don't know what to say, I think I need to try moderation some more with added discipline and see how it goes...........
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... I think I need to try moderation some more with added discipline and see how it goes...........
ya know, not all thoughts we have are true or for our best interest.
that dam moderation took too much energy for me to do.
remember the thread title?

if ya decide to try moderation again, we'll be here if/when it doesnt work.

good thread among many on moderation:
https://www.soberrecovery.com/forums...nta-claus.html (Moderation is the addict's Santa Claus...)
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Hi and welcome Oleaceae

Over time my drinking made my anxiety worse...I not only had the anxieties I started with but I'd get anxious for my 'medicine'.

I tried to find the spot where I could drink just enough to control my anxiety....never found it.

It's much easier for me just not to drink. My anxiety has never been so low, or more manageable

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Old 05-22-2019, 03:56 PM
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Hi Dee
Many thanks for your message. I think you are the guru on this site. 87 UK units the week I began posting, 23 units last week. So I was within my limit of 26 units I set myself to moderate for the next three months.
Thanks for the link on moderation, it was amusing! I hope many of you dont find it within yourselves to roll your eyes and believe this is not the space. I will be here later I predict if moderation doesn't work out for me and I will need your help. What's waking up with numb hands at night about? Could be the alcohol? Thinking about it and more leads to my anxiety....At 51 it's time to get this sorted.
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BTW hey sorry about my hard to spell name, I'm into olive plants at the moment, so just call me ollie
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