This is scary .........
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This is scary .........
A friend had a relative ,that did not drink a drop for 25 years .
He started drinking and in 6 years died from liver failure .
That's how quick it can happen ,scary stuff there .
He started drinking and in 6 years died from liver failure .
That's how quick it can happen ,scary stuff there .
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I found that to really have sobriety work, I had to want it more than I wanted to drink. Scare tactics and horror stories really didn't affect me as I really didn't care at the time; drinking was the most important thing.
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Reminds me of a story in the Big Book. A guy hadn't drank due to successful career, something over 20 years. Retired, started drinking, dead. Nutshell version. Alcoholics/Addicts cannot use. Period. I know this with all my soul. People I've met in my meetings have died...I've been in Recovery for 14 months. Thanks for reminding us Karate.
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Scott,
Oh ya.... Cunning, baffling, and powerful this disease. It told me for a couple of decades that I didn't have a problem. No crying from my son, no humiliating experiences, guilt, could make me stop. I do know that something, I believe it was my HP, opened doors for me, and I tip toed in....
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Oh ya.... Cunning, baffling, and powerful this disease. It told me for a couple of decades that I didn't have a problem. No crying from my son, no humiliating experiences, guilt, could make me stop. I do know that something, I believe it was my HP, opened doors for me, and I tip toed in....
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I had a cousin that died from cirrhosis that almost never drank. I kep't on drinking all the while seeing what it was doing to him. I did quit a year or so before he died.
But unbelievably,I don't think seeing him go through all that really had anything to do with me quitting drinking. Like I say... unbelievable.
Fred
But unbelievably,I don't think seeing him go through all that really had anything to do with me quitting drinking. Like I say... unbelievable.
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Only if you're really 'lucky' do you get 'lifted to heaven'....
More likely, you lose your mind and get alcoholic dementia and can't remember your own name let alone the names of those you once loved, you definitely lose all the 'can do without that stuff anyway' such as looks, eyesight, teeth, complexion, ability to walk properly or to control your bowels and bladder, and other wonderful options include pancreatitis, liver cirrhosis (ever seen that happen to someone? It's horrific), many forms of cancer, heart failure....or if you're the more 'adventurous type' you could fall down the stairs and break your neck, drive a car drunk killing yourself and someone else, pick a fight with the wrong person, or get so desperate in the pursuit of that high you can no longer find, walk off the edge of a tall building, or throw yourself under a train, or maybe even take an overdose that leaves you brain damaged and incapacitated...
And in the midst of all that, you also get to lose all hope, joy, ambition, friendships, relationships, children, career, material possessions, your personality, your freedom of choice, and any dignity and self-respect you ever had. All that matters is the next drink
If I ever am in doubt that this is an illness....anything that has the power to do that, yet still seems attractive, exciting or romantic, and tells me that none of that will happen to me...that's an overwhelming addiction...there but for the grace of God...
Sorry to hijack your thread Karate....finished now....
More likely, you lose your mind and get alcoholic dementia and can't remember your own name let alone the names of those you once loved, you definitely lose all the 'can do without that stuff anyway' such as looks, eyesight, teeth, complexion, ability to walk properly or to control your bowels and bladder, and other wonderful options include pancreatitis, liver cirrhosis (ever seen that happen to someone? It's horrific), many forms of cancer, heart failure....or if you're the more 'adventurous type' you could fall down the stairs and break your neck, drive a car drunk killing yourself and someone else, pick a fight with the wrong person, or get so desperate in the pursuit of that high you can no longer find, walk off the edge of a tall building, or throw yourself under a train, or maybe even take an overdose that leaves you brain damaged and incapacitated...
And in the midst of all that, you also get to lose all hope, joy, ambition, friendships, relationships, children, career, material possessions, your personality, your freedom of choice, and any dignity and self-respect you ever had. All that matters is the next drink
If I ever am in doubt that this is an illness....anything that has the power to do that, yet still seems attractive, exciting or romantic, and tells me that none of that will happen to me...that's an overwhelming addiction...there but for the grace of God...
Sorry to hijack your thread Karate....finished now....
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Originally Posted by lovesymphony 
Nevertheless- Maybe this cousin drank more than anyone realized?
It really isn't that unusual for athletes that eat right and take care of themselves to get heart disease. Same principal.Cirrhosis just isn't as common.
He had what was called portal hypertension. I won't go into detail.
I would not wish it on my worst enemy.
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Originally Posted by karate
A friend had a relative ,that did not drink a drop for 25 years .
He started drinking and in 6 years died from liver failure .
That's how quick it can happen ,scary stuff there .
a similar story is told somewhere in the AA Big Book
yes - if one is alcoholic ?
best to never have another drink for as long as we live
if -- we wish to extend our years and die sober
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[QUOTE=Pipefish;4430864]
Only if you're really 'lucky' do you get 'lifted to heaven'....
[QUOTE]
I have heard of ones getting there by the skin of their teeth
also
others getting there with trails of smoke
but
I have never heard of anyone arriving in heaven by luck
Mountainman
Only if you're really 'lucky' do you get 'lifted to heaven'....
[QUOTE]
I have heard of ones getting there by the skin of their teeth
also
others getting there with trails of smoke
but
I have never heard of anyone arriving in heaven by luck
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Originally Posted by Mountainmanbob
a similar story is told somewhere in the AA Big Book
yes - if one is alcoholic ?
best to never have another drink for as long as we live
if -- we wish to extend our years and die sober
Mountainman
yes - if one is alcoholic ?
best to never have another drink for as long as we live
if -- we wish to extend our years and die sober
Mountainman
Story is told , very similar. With the same ending
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know a man that went back out after about the same amount of time.
he made it back after about a month. he said,"i didn't pick up where I left off. I picked up like I never stopped."
he made it back after about a month. he said,"i didn't pick up where I left off. I picked up like I never stopped."
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cirrhosis of the liver
I'm sorry that happened to your friend. 7 of my drinking buddies died from cirrhosis. On 2 different occasions..2 different friends..I saw one with the vivid yellow eyes. The other her feet were swollen HUGE she couldn't wear shoes anymore, she told me. Anyways I gasped when I saw their conditions. I felt bad because I wanted to support them! But the gasp was ike a chain reaction I couldn't stop. I was shocked at their swift transition or progression. I didn't mean to and luckily they didn't get mad at me. I felt bad for them while we drank vodka together.
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