A New Low At The AA Club......
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A New Low At The AA Club......
Well now I can say that I've seen it all in my years of AA meetings. Our club had a giant 2 foot glass donation jar for our Christmas party. The money was going to go for kids toys & presents. There was an estimated $300+ in the jar. Someone walked out with it! The odd thing is that we have cameras everywhere. They reviewed the tapes & have a suspect. They called the police & they plan on talking & , hopefully, arresting him at the local homeless shelter. One member even was talking about, "dealing with him" himself. I just cannot imagine a more pathetic act. I will not pray for him & hope he gets arrested & prison time. He is on parole now & got out of prison last year. Unbelievable.
But for the Grace of God...
I have learned that it is better to be stolen from than to be the one who feels it is necessary to steal. Not trying to justify what the guy did, but haven't we all done some pathetic things in our day?
The guy will be in my prayers. He is obviously not well.
I have learned that it is better to be stolen from than to be the one who feels it is necessary to steal. Not trying to justify what the guy did, but haven't we all done some pathetic things in our day?
The guy will be in my prayers. He is obviously not well.
In my opinion, the dude that wanted to "deal with him" needs help as much as the one who walked out with the jar.
I don't understand the surprise, really. that's what us addicts do.
i am the proverbial Mary Friggin' Poppins on the outside, and i stole pills from my own sick mom.
Again, in my opinion, this man needs prayer, help, forgiveness, and love.
I don't understand the surprise, really. that's what us addicts do.
i am the proverbial Mary Friggin' Poppins on the outside, and i stole pills from my own sick mom.
Again, in my opinion, this man needs prayer, help, forgiveness, and love.
As it was said before, that's not really a surprise to me. It really IS what addicts do. While in active addiction, I stole and did whatever I needed to keep my habit going. It didn't matter who I hurt or upset in the process.
It sounds like a lot of people put expectations on te fact that no one would think about or actually steal it. This could have been easily avoided by many means.
Sure, it's unfortunate, but I am not at all shocked or surprised.
It sounds like a lot of people put expectations on te fact that no one would think about or actually steal it. This could have been easily avoided by many means.
Sure, it's unfortunate, but I am not at all shocked or surprised.
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I did some horrible things while in active addiction. But I never took advantage of the AA fellowship. I don't feel sorry for him at all. I will pray that he gets caught & sent back to the Illinois Department Of Corrections. Alcoholic/addict is a disease that sometimes leads to criminal behavior. IMO when you cross that line you should be dealt with in a criminal manner & not just a sick person.
I did some horrible things while in active addiction. But I never took advantage of the AA fellowship. I don't feel sorry for him at all. I will pray that he gets caught & sent back to the Illinois Department Of Corrections. Alcoholic/addict is a disease that sometimes leads to criminal behavior. IMO when you cross that line you should be dealt with in a criminal manner & not just a sick person.
We realized that the people who wronged us were perhaps spiritually sick.Though we did not like their symptoms and the way these disturbed us, they, like ourselves, were sick too. We asked God to help us show them the same tolerance, pity, and patience that we would cheerfully grant a sick friend. When a person offended we said to ourselves, "This is a sick man. How can I be helpful to him? God save me from being angry. Thy will be done."
although i believe it good to let him face the consequences, anyone "dealing with him" or not praying for him goes against the principles of what we are taught.
would you not view the behavior you exibited before you got into recovery as sick?
although i believe it good to let him face the consequences, anyone "dealing with him" or not praying for him goes against the principles of what we are taught.
would you not view the behavior you exibited before you got into recovery as sick?
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I hear what everyone is saying. But I do not believe that because I was sick that I should be above the law. For example, during my DUI's I was a sick person. But, driving drunk is illegal & anti-social behavior so I got what I deserved. A revoked drivers license & community service. It's why addiction is not a popular disease in society. In many cases, we become criminals & become dangerous to a civilized society.
What's worse Just:
1. an act against God's will committed by someone who's sick, separated from God, and doesn't have the Power in their life to do better
or
2. Someone who has the power, has the connection, but willfully spits in God's face.
#1 may not know better........#2 does, but ignores his/her duty as a child of God.
You may want to re-look at the 3rd step and consider how long an alcoholic can suspect to live under self-propulsion, judging the world and playing God and stay sober.
1. an act against God's will committed by someone who's sick, separated from God, and doesn't have the Power in their life to do better
or
2. Someone who has the power, has the connection, but willfully spits in God's face.
#1 may not know better........#2 does, but ignores his/her duty as a child of God.
I will not pray for him & hope he gets arrested
I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I don't feel sorry for him at all.
I'll pray for His will to be done and if I get used along the way then cool, if not, then cool. I'm not above that kind of behavior.
A local club by the university I attend has a safe bolted to the foundation of the building. Back door has been kicked in and the safe ripped out numerous times. It's a poor group that can barely keep the doors open. Safe usually has maybe $50. Group goes through lots of safes lol. Three I think since I've been sober.
Hopefully the $300 will buy enough booze to bring him to his knees and surrender him. Who knows? Maybe he'll make amends tenfold. Lots of potential power in that story...God all over it.
A local club by the university I attend has a safe bolted to the foundation of the building. Back door has been kicked in and the safe ripped out numerous times. It's a poor group that can barely keep the doors open. Safe usually has maybe $50. Group goes through lots of safes lol. Three I think since I've been sober.
Hopefully the $300 will buy enough booze to bring him to his knees and surrender him. Who knows? Maybe he'll make amends tenfold. Lots of potential power in that story...God all over it.
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Gosh, that idea seems like it was an invitation to theft.
Where I attend meetings, there are a lot of court-ordered folks. I wouldn't presume they are sober or at all able to walk past that kind of temptation.
Where I attend meetings, there are a lot of court-ordered folks. I wouldn't presume they are sober or at all able to walk past that kind of temptation.
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Stand at ease Justfor1. No sense getting a resentment over something...truth be known, we've all done and under the right circumstances would probably do again if the need was bad enough. Let the law take it's course, thank God it wasn't you and pray that you'll never need money bad enough to do the same.
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