British Columbia, Canadas new Drunk Driving Laws!!
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British Columbia, Canadas new Drunk Driving Laws!!
They are now the toughest in North America!! sooo glad I don't drink anymore, I will not have to worry about that!! it will change alot of peoples lives, especially the ones who stop at the bar after work for a few... in the new laws two drinks will be an impaired.. I'm happy to see it!! 
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Originally Posted by loveon2legs 
... in the new laws two drinks will be an impaired.. I'm happy to see it!!
Right now it is half .08 or .04 which is 1 - 2 drinks for average adult males. Even less for females.
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I can't go to Canada unless I'm willing to pay $5000 at the border. I've got 2 DUI's on my record and they say it is for insurance like purposes. I guess they figure that I'd be going over there to start trouble or something.
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Yeah, my daughter is seriously considering moving to Canada. That sucks because since I have a DWI on my record (4 years ago, I think), I wouldn't be able to even go visit her without getting special permission. Oh well...whatcha gonna do? 
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Sweden lowered its legal limit from .05 to .02 twenty years ago and they're seeing results.
The fines for drunk driving in Sweden can depend on how much money you have in the bank. One Swedish official told Rasmussen about a woman who had to pay more than $21,000.
The legal driving limit in Sweden is 0.02. If you break the law more than once, your name, your face and your car goes into a database so police can stop you at anytime.
"If we stop a repeat offender, we can seize his car. It will be forfeited. He'll lose his right to the car. It'll be sold or scrapped," Eriksson said.
It appears to be paying off. Swedish officials estimate less than one percent of the drivers on the road are under the influence of alcohol. In Florida, in 2008, 35 percent of all fatal crashes were alcohol-related. In Sweden, the number is between 15 and 25 percent; drunk-driving deaths have dropped from 471 in 2007 to just over 300 in 2010.
What Can Florida Learn From Sweden's DUI Laws? - News Story - WFTV Orlando
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In Michigan, they just upped the ante a bit..
On October 31, 2010, a new drunk driving category took effect in Michigan for first time offenders with high blood alcohol content (BAC) readings. Known as the "High Alcohol Enhanced Penalty Law," or more commonly as "Super DUI," the new category applies to those with a BAC of 0.17 or greater.
The penalties for a Super DUI are twice as severe as they are for standard DUIs. These penalties include:
- Up to a maximum of 180 days in jail
- One year license suspension
- 45 day hard license suspension (i.e. no driving)
- Up to $700 in fines
- One year mandatory alcohol treatment program
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...personally, I don't care if they take the legal limit to 0.01, crank the penalties up (like vehicle forfeiture, alcohol monitoring tethers, jail time, house-arrest, in-car breathalizers/interlock devices, etc.) or anything else as it relates to drinking and driving. I don't drink anymore so and don't expect to ever again in my life. If I do, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be out drunk driving again (and the lowest # I've ever blown was a 0.22. The public had a right to their safety when I was out getting my 3 dui's and they weren't safe. I don't believe that a lower limit would have prevented me from being an alcoholic.....but it might have kept me from driving it it was just general knowledge that you just CAN'T ever drink anything and drive.
The fines for drunk driving in Sweden can depend on how much money you have in the bank. One Swedish official told Rasmussen about a woman who had to pay more than $21,000.
The legal driving limit in Sweden is 0.02. If you break the law more than once, your name, your face and your car goes into a database so police can stop you at anytime.
"If we stop a repeat offender, we can seize his car. It will be forfeited. He'll lose his right to the car. It'll be sold or scrapped," Eriksson said.
It appears to be paying off. Swedish officials estimate less than one percent of the drivers on the road are under the influence of alcohol. In Florida, in 2008, 35 percent of all fatal crashes were alcohol-related. In Sweden, the number is between 15 and 25 percent; drunk-driving deaths have dropped from 471 in 2007 to just over 300 in 2010.
What Can Florida Learn From Sweden's DUI Laws? - News Story - WFTV Orlando
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In Michigan, they just upped the ante a bit..
On October 31, 2010, a new drunk driving category took effect in Michigan for first time offenders with high blood alcohol content (BAC) readings. Known as the "High Alcohol Enhanced Penalty Law," or more commonly as "Super DUI," the new category applies to those with a BAC of 0.17 or greater.
The penalties for a Super DUI are twice as severe as they are for standard DUIs. These penalties include:
- Up to a maximum of 180 days in jail
- One year license suspension
- 45 day hard license suspension (i.e. no driving)
- Up to $700 in fines
- One year mandatory alcohol treatment program
_______________
...personally, I don't care if they take the legal limit to 0.01, crank the penalties up (like vehicle forfeiture, alcohol monitoring tethers, jail time, house-arrest, in-car breathalizers/interlock devices, etc.) or anything else as it relates to drinking and driving. I don't drink anymore so and don't expect to ever again in my life. If I do, you can bet your bottom dollar I'll be out drunk driving again (and the lowest # I've ever blown was a 0.22. The public had a right to their safety when I was out getting my 3 dui's and they weren't safe. I don't believe that a lower limit would have prevented me from being an alcoholic.....but it might have kept me from driving it it was just general knowledge that you just CAN'T ever drink anything and drive.
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Originally Posted by unger894
So...do you think that people are impaired after two drinks? Do you think that they're the people that are doing the damage and need to be targeted? Just curious.
But I don't wanna reply to it, really...
In my case, I would never, ever, ever drive after I had consumed one or two drinks. I would never allow myself to be that irresponsible.
But.... if I'd had 10 or 20 drinks... watch out! Who the heck knows what I'd do!
So, they can lower the alcohol limits all they want. It makes no difference to me, personally. 'Cause if they caught me drinking and driving I would be WAY beyond what anyone would consider reasonable.
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Originally Posted by unger894
So...do you think that people are impaired after two drinks? Do you think that they're the people that are doing the damage and need to be targeted? Just curious.
If you drink and drive you forfeit your future.
And what's this "I don't drink anymore so....", you still drive don't you?
Do your kids drive?
DD'ing is the sadest part of this affliction because it is easily preventable.
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Originally Posted by unger894
So...do you think that people are impaired after two drinks? Do you think that they're the people that are doing the damage and need to be targeted? Just curious.
basically what some cops are saying are they feel they are targeting the wrong people, the ones that want to have a glass of wine with dinner. and while they are dealing with these people, they are being stretched too thin while waiting for tow trucks and backup to get the people that these new laws are actually about, the drivers that get DRUNK and drive.
the restuarunt businesses have been feeling the hit also because no one is ordering drinks anymore.
please keep in mind i am just repeating what they have said. its been in the paper a lot lately.
alot of people feel it is just another tax grab for the government.
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These are penalties for the new law...if anyones intrested.
Under changes to the Motor Vehicle Act (MVA), drivers who provide a failing breath sample above 0.08 per cent BAC or refuse to provide a breath sample at the roadside will face an immediate, 90-day driving ban and a $500 fine. As well, they will have their vehicle impounded for 30 days. They may also face criminal charges.
Drivers caught once in the “warn” range (between 0.05 and 0.08 per cent BAC) in a five-year period will face an immediate, three-day driving ban and a $200 fine; a second time, a seven-day ban and a $300 fine; and a third, a 30-day ban and a $400 fine. Research shows that driving with a BAC in that range means a driver is seven times more likely to be in a fatal crash than if they have no alcohol in their body.
In addition, drivers who blow once in the “fail” range, or three times within five years in the “warn” range, will be required to participate in the rehabilitative Responsible Driver Program. They must also use an ignition interlock device, which tests a driver’s breath for alcohol every time they operate their vehicle, for one year.
Under changes to the Motor Vehicle Act (MVA), drivers who provide a failing breath sample above 0.08 per cent BAC or refuse to provide a breath sample at the roadside will face an immediate, 90-day driving ban and a $500 fine. As well, they will have their vehicle impounded for 30 days. They may also face criminal charges.
Drivers caught once in the “warn” range (between 0.05 and 0.08 per cent BAC) in a five-year period will face an immediate, three-day driving ban and a $200 fine; a second time, a seven-day ban and a $300 fine; and a third, a 30-day ban and a $400 fine. Research shows that driving with a BAC in that range means a driver is seven times more likely to be in a fatal crash than if they have no alcohol in their body.
In addition, drivers who blow once in the “fail” range, or three times within five years in the “warn” range, will be required to participate in the rehabilitative Responsible Driver Program. They must also use an ignition interlock device, which tests a driver’s breath for alcohol every time they operate their vehicle, for one year.
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thats what i feel also. since i used to BE one of those drunk drivers, even the old laws didnt scare or affect me. although they carried basically the same penalties.
i think the social drinker are just not going to drink because they dont want to risk it, and the people who are the worst offenders doing it all the time, will still do it. imo.
i think the social drinker are just not going to drink because they dont want to risk it, and the people who are the worst offenders doing it all the time, will still do it. imo.
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