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Old 01-10-2016, 06:22 AM
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Are you alcoholic ? -- is liquor no longer a luxury ?

and now become a necessity ?

Answering these two simple questions helps many to realize
whether or not they are truly alcoholic.

is liquor no longer a luxury ?
and now become a necessity ?

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Old 01-10-2016, 08:22 AM
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I wonder if I would have answered truthfully if asked before I hit my bottom ?

Probably not.

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Yeah, I can relate. When it stopped being something I enjoyed doing and became something I HAD to do, it wasn't fun anymore. Definitely a turning point.
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Yeah, I can relate. When it stopped being something I enjoyed doing and became something I HAD to do, it wasn't fun anymore. Definitely a turning point.


This. Even after a couple of years of sobriety, I have trouble explaining this point to people who don't have an addiction. I guess it is hard to understand until you've lived it.
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This. Even after a couple of years of sobriety, I have trouble explaining this point to people who don't have an addiction. I guess it is hard to understand until you've lived it.
Yes, once we have been to that point in time we understand.

Was liquor no longer a luxury ?
And had become a necessity ?

Oh-yes, that explains my condition back then all so well.

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yeah paying for booze was like paying the light bill. I just had to have it in my mind.
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I remember pouring a stiff drink when I was in law school in Florida thinking that drinking was really not an optional matter with me.

I got sober around 5 - 6 years later when I determined that my drinking was going to cost me my career.

I knew I had a drinking problem.

But I thought that I was an alcoholic, so I was supposed to drink.

Kind of pathetic, really.
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for the (alcoholic) booze is the liquid devil

When I got to the point in time in life
where I would not leave home without a drink with me in the car
and knowing ahead of time drinking spots along the way during the day
oh yes -- I was married to the liquid devil.

Drinking had become a necessity.

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Yes, that was exactly the reason I finally quit. Drinking became something I needed to do rather than wanted to do. I can remember trying to chug a beer and throwing part of it up halfway through, but still gathering the muster to finish the rest - mosty just to keep my heart rate down if my alchohol level got too low.
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I definitely needed alcohol. The problem was I couldn't have one or two drinks even when I swore I would .... I couldn't stop once I picked up a drink.
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Originally Posted by SoberCAH View Post
I knew I had a drinking problem.

But I thought that I was an alcoholic, so I was supposed to drink.
Thanks for articulating this so simply. I hadn't put my finger on it before, but I definitely had a five year period or so where I knew I was an alcoholic but kind of accepted it as just my cross to bear. It wasn't devastating yet, it wasn't OK either, it was just my unquestioned reality.
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Originally Posted by SoberCAH View Post
I remember pouring a stiff drink when I was in law school in Florida thinking that drinking was really not an optional matter with me.

I got sober around 5 - 6 years later when I determined that my drinking was going to cost me my career.

I knew I had a drinking problem.

But I thought that I was an alcoholic, so I was supposed to drink.

Kind of pathetic, really.
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is liquor no longer a luxury ?

Towards the end of my drinking I was taking a shower at 5AM in the morning before work with two tall cans of Budweiser in the shower.

No -- not much of a luxury.

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Old 03-07-2016, 12:57 PM
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Addiction is seeking to do something that you don't like.

It's paradoxical, which is why it can be so hard to understand. You have to understand brain chemistry to be able to explain it. It's not about being rational or irrational. It's really about impulsive, difficult to control behaviour, that even after you've said no you find yourself doing it. There is some reward to the behaviour, but rationally you know the overall result is terrible and not worth it.

Are you an alcoholic... I think it's not a good enough question. Because usually people with one addiction are people who become easily addicted to lots of things. Do you have an addictive personality, and are you taking steps to manage it? Maybe that's more accurate for some people.
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