View Poll Results: Can YOU successfully drink in moderation?
Yes
44
9.28%
No
430
90.72%
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Can YOU successfully drink in moderation?
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Join Date: Oct 2013
Location: Midwest
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I didn't see this the first time it came up, but it apparently got bumped.
I find it offensive; it sends the wrong message to newcomers.
This is a sobriety site.
"This is a controversial question and I think it might be useful to get some actual data as there's already been much speculation."
1. There is no controversy. Alcoholics cannot moderate. We already know the answer to that question.
2. This site is not equipped to gather data in a legitimate way, nor does it purport to have that capacity. Polls here are akin to when newspapers do online surveys that pose a question and give readers the chance to vote "thumbs up" or "thumbs down." Those surveys always come with the disclaimer that they are non-scientific.
I'd like to think I'm a community-minded contributor to SR. And I think some of the polls are interesting. But a poll posing this question -- on a sobriety site -- is irresponsible.
I'm asking the moderators to consider locking it down.
I find it offensive; it sends the wrong message to newcomers.
This is a sobriety site.
"This is a controversial question and I think it might be useful to get some actual data as there's already been much speculation."
1. There is no controversy. Alcoholics cannot moderate. We already know the answer to that question.
2. This site is not equipped to gather data in a legitimate way, nor does it purport to have that capacity. Polls here are akin to when newspapers do online surveys that pose a question and give readers the chance to vote "thumbs up" or "thumbs down." Those surveys always come with the disclaimer that they are non-scientific.
I'd like to think I'm a community-minded contributor to SR. And I think some of the polls are interesting. But a poll posing this question -- on a sobriety site -- is irresponsible.
I'm asking the moderators to consider locking it down.
Do your best
Join Date: Aug 2014
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Hi V i believe the thread was started because of some ppl here saying they could moderate this is prove what we all know its done to show anyone who thinks they can moderate look at the numbers
i think this poll destroys the moderation idea
i think this poll destroys the moderation idea
Last Blackout
Join Date: Nov 2014
Posts: 21
I've recently been reading Allen Carr's book entitled How to Control Your Drinking. Its actually a fascinating take on alcohol, a completely different mindset that may explain this phenomenon.
He argues that given time and exposure it is almost a foregone conclusion that people will develop an addiction to the drug of alcohol.
Maybe these folks arent there quite yet, but if they try hard enough (drink enough for long enough) it is almost a certainty.
Thats his argument at least.
He argues that given time and exposure it is almost a foregone conclusion that people will develop an addiction to the drug of alcohol.
Maybe these folks arent there quite yet, but if they try hard enough (drink enough for long enough) it is almost a certainty.
Thats his argument at least.
Omnivore
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Winter Water Wonder Land
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I wish the poll was more specific. Depending upon how you define moderation I could answer yes or no.
To me moderation means not getting stumbling slurring raging drunk. So if I drink every day but I drink just enough to get mildly inebriated, then I would consider that progress and being moderately drunk. Yes, I can do that. Sometimes.
However, to some one that is not already a heavy drinker, moderate drinking means 2 to 4 drinks a month. And never 2 on the same day. No, I can not do that. Having one drink to me is maddening. I'd rather have none.
I've slipped in and out of sobriety. Sometimes I went right from sober to stumbling drunk as ever in a matter of hours. Other times I drank moderately for days and never went off the deep end. Both types of relapses are regretful. I hate the brain damage and life damage I do when stumbling drunk. When I drink moderately I know I'm still doing damage. Serious damage. And playing with fire. Each step of the way going from just mildly buzzed to stumbling drunk to completely blitzed, is just a split second decision away. Decisions that will be made in the heat of the moment, by an inebriated fellow with poor judgment and weak impulse control. Very dangerous. It seems insane to put myself, my health and life in the hands of a moderate drinker.
To me moderation means not getting stumbling slurring raging drunk. So if I drink every day but I drink just enough to get mildly inebriated, then I would consider that progress and being moderately drunk. Yes, I can do that. Sometimes.
However, to some one that is not already a heavy drinker, moderate drinking means 2 to 4 drinks a month. And never 2 on the same day. No, I can not do that. Having one drink to me is maddening. I'd rather have none.
I've slipped in and out of sobriety. Sometimes I went right from sober to stumbling drunk as ever in a matter of hours. Other times I drank moderately for days and never went off the deep end. Both types of relapses are regretful. I hate the brain damage and life damage I do when stumbling drunk. When I drink moderately I know I'm still doing damage. Serious damage. And playing with fire. Each step of the way going from just mildly buzzed to stumbling drunk to completely blitzed, is just a split second decision away. Decisions that will be made in the heat of the moment, by an inebriated fellow with poor judgment and weak impulse control. Very dangerous. It seems insane to put myself, my health and life in the hands of a moderate drinker.
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To me moderation means not getting stumbling slurring raging drunk. So if I drink every day but I drink just enough to get mildly inebriated, then I would consider that progress and being moderately drunk. Yes, I can do that. Sometimes.
If I'm honest. I think times like that - where I 'didn't get too drunk' and 'nothing bad happened' - were my addictions greatest ally...
so I'm afraid, from here looking back, I don't really see it as progress at all, walk....
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Originally Posted by Pat A 
He argues that given time and exposure it is almost a foregone conclusion that people will develop an addiction to the drug of alcohol. Maybe these folks arent there quite yet, but if they try hard enough (drink enough for long enough) it is almost a certainty.
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Join Date: Sep 2014
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Don't know. Would be pointless to find out. It would definitely disappoint a lot of people who are counting on me if I experimented. Wouldn't be much fun and it would be quite stressful trying.
So I'll say maybe. Maybe not. Probably will never know.
So I'll say maybe. Maybe not. Probably will never know.
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Join Date: Sep 2013
Posts: 59
Hi everyone,
no, of course I can't, otherwise I would not be here. Looking back to the start of my relationship with alcohol, it was uncontrolled drinking right from the beginning. Right from then I think I was in free fall mode, only that it seemed like fun at first and didn't do a lot of harm for a brief period. And now it's a case of staying sober or going down, at age 23.
no, of course I can't, otherwise I would not be here. Looking back to the start of my relationship with alcohol, it was uncontrolled drinking right from the beginning. Right from then I think I was in free fall mode, only that it seemed like fun at first and didn't do a lot of harm for a brief period. And now it's a case of staying sober or going down, at age 23.
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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Seems a rather odd place for posing this question and expecting results any different than we see here. It's a sobriety and recovery forum. You will never get an honest yes here because the ones who can answer yes simply don't need to.
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Join Date: Nov 2013
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Seems a rather odd place for posing this question and expecting results any different than we see here. It's a sobriety and recovery forum. You will never get an honest yes here because the ones who can answer yes simply don't need to.
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