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Originally Posted by suki44883 
Is it something about Why do you feel burnt out?
I watch a lot of Andrew Hubes stuff and he recommends dopamine detoxes. Small periods of time where the actual AIM is to ‘get really bored’!!
My kind of nightmare!!! 😂😂
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Originally Posted by suki44883
Okay, that's what I came up with from your link. But, looks like Dee posted a clickable one for you.
Thanks for letting me know, Suki xxx
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Thanks for this kp.
This is something I've been hearing about a lot recently in my delving into recovery/wellness etc.
I definitely think the modern world is so overestimating and full on, it's like there's just too much all the time! I sometimes feel like I should be doing something positive on a constant basis but maybe that's just chasing the next dopamine hit whereas actually it might be better to learn how to accept a bit of boredom occasionally.
This is something I've been hearing about a lot recently in my delving into recovery/wellness etc.
I definitely think the modern world is so overestimating and full on, it's like there's just too much all the time! I sometimes feel like I should be doing something positive on a constant basis but maybe that's just chasing the next dopamine hit whereas actually it might be better to learn how to accept a bit of boredom occasionally.
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Sounds like much of my 30s. Most of my drinking was on the weekends by then. I guess its kind of unbelievable that I could go years at a time in active alcoholism without a sick day from work. It was always run, lift weights, work, healthy diet all week. Then drinking on the weekends which would sometimes lead to crack cocaine which would lead to opiates to come down.
I think much of the problem was the drinking and druggin artificially wringing out a bunch of dopamine at once.
Taking a rest, like holidays or vacation was pretty much putting work, diet, and exercise on the back burner and daily drinking for a little while. Looking back i was always drained AFTER a rest!
I think much of the problem was the drinking and druggin artificially wringing out a bunch of dopamine at once.
Taking a rest, like holidays or vacation was pretty much putting work, diet, and exercise on the back burner and daily drinking for a little while. Looking back i was always drained AFTER a rest!
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It's similar to what I've suggested here and in other places many times. Sometimes doing nothing and being content in the moment is enough. It's simple in that the more pleasure you experience the further you're willing to go and do for more pleasure, even if there are negative consequences. The issue is with the threshold and the apparent deficiency/deprivation if pleasure isn't present one hundred percent of the time.
We're hardwired to rise in the morning with sunlight and go to sleep and or rest when the sun goes down. I believe many simply think for some reason if you're awake and not happy and experiencing pleasure there is something wrong. Contentment and boredom are the same it's the perception that makes it different.
We're hardwired to rise in the morning with sunlight and go to sleep and or rest when the sun goes down. I believe many simply think for some reason if you're awake and not happy and experiencing pleasure there is something wrong. Contentment and boredom are the same it's the perception that makes it different.
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That makes sense. As I come to fifty days of being sober there are days like today, when I’m finished work. I’ll think “wow. I’m not as happy as I should be”. But the truth is, I’m content. It’s just quiet. There’s no wine to look “forward” too. It’s not good or bad. Nothing is “wrong”. It’s just that I’m experiencing new things including just “being”. And sometimes just “being” is neither really amazing or really awful. It’s just sort of meh. Which is good. I am content. I just haven’t experienced this being sober.
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I understand Peke.
I developed an extremely warped falsehood that I truly believed if was not jumping up and down happy then to hell with the world and everyone. And then mix and bake that into alcoholism it's a very nasty perception for anyone to acquire.
Looking back now I can see that I was a narcissistic very self-centered individual if any good from being that I never turned extremely violent. I guess when I exhausted all the anger I turned into the most anxious and panic-fueled individual a total inversion. I could see myself making bad decisions and still chasing the drink or the "pleasure". I view life as being most mediocrity (nothing wrong at all with that word ties into being content) one extreme being suffering and the opposite end being pleasure. It's the only way things that make sense to me.
Pleasure is a short term through substances and certain behaviors, and happiness is contentment that is long term and doesn't come from substances and certain behaviors.
I developed an extremely warped falsehood that I truly believed if was not jumping up and down happy then to hell with the world and everyone. And then mix and bake that into alcoholism it's a very nasty perception for anyone to acquire.
Looking back now I can see that I was a narcissistic very self-centered individual if any good from being that I never turned extremely violent. I guess when I exhausted all the anger I turned into the most anxious and panic-fueled individual a total inversion. I could see myself making bad decisions and still chasing the drink or the "pleasure". I view life as being most mediocrity (nothing wrong at all with that word ties into being content) one extreme being suffering and the opposite end being pleasure. It's the only way things that make sense to me.
Pleasure is a short term through substances and certain behaviors, and happiness is contentment that is long term and doesn't come from substances and certain behaviors.
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Originally Posted by Toddy
Thanks for this kp.
This is something I've been hearing about a lot recently in my delving into recovery/wellness etc.
I definitely think the modern world is so overestimating and full on, it's like there's just too much all the time! I sometimes feel like I should be doing something positive on a constant basis but maybe that's just chasing the next dopamine hit whereas actually it might be better to learn how to accept a bit of boredom occasionally.
This is something I've been hearing about a lot recently in my delving into recovery/wellness etc.
I definitely think the modern world is so overestimating and full on, it's like there's just too much all the time! I sometimes feel like I should be doing something positive on a constant basis but maybe that's just chasing the next dopamine hit whereas actually it might be better to learn how to accept a bit of boredom occasionally.
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Originally Posted by RecklessDrunk
I think much of the problem was the drinking and druggin artificially wringing out a bunch of dopamine at once.
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Originally Posted by Pekelover2
That makes sense. As I come to fifty days of being sober there are days like today, when I’m finished work. I’ll think “wow. I’m not as happy as I should be”. But the truth is, I’m content. It’s just quiet. There’s no wine to look “forward” too. It’s not good or bad. Nothing is “wrong”. It’s just that I’m experiencing new things including just “being”. And sometimes just “being” is neither really amazing or really awful. It’s just sort of meh. Which is good. I am content. I just haven’t experienced this being sober.
Your comment makes so much sense to me. It’s strange feeling so ‘neutral’. Just like you say, no good or bad sometimes, just meh. You sound better at being content with ‘the neutral’ than I am, you’re doing so well! Teach me how to be more content! 😁 xxx
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Originally Posted by joe801
I view life as being most mediocrity (nothing wrong at all with that word ties into being content) one extreme being suffering and the opposite end being pleasure. It's the only way things that make sense to me.
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KneePads, it will be hard to express the answer. I'll enjoy the challenge. Every analogy that I think doesn't quite fit. I will sleep on this and hopefully have a decent answer tomorrow.
For me, the pink cloud has always represented something out of reach, somewhere that someone would like to be, a means of escape. Perhaps even an imaginary place and state of being.
Concrete being hard and boring it's a stable surface to build on, raise a family, and live a life. I guess one of the two is already in reach. It's mainly perception and perspective.
I'll try and have a better answer because I'm not satisfied with this one. I may be chasing a better answer when there isn't one.
For me, the pink cloud has always represented something out of reach, somewhere that someone would like to be, a means of escape. Perhaps even an imaginary place and state of being.
Concrete being hard and boring it's a stable surface to build on, raise a family, and live a life. I guess one of the two is already in reach. It's mainly perception and perspective.
I'll try and have a better answer because I'm not satisfied with this one. I may be chasing a better answer when there isn't one.
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