nutz

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Three blind men decription of and elephant.

The first blind man went up and touch the tusk.
" An elephant is hard and smooth"

The second blind man went and touch the skin
"An elephant is rough"

The third blind man went and touch the tail
"an elephant is hairy"

Time2Surrender

None of them.Opinions will vary.

nutz

third blind man is a family member of and alki/addict.
They get to deal with the crap.lol

pdgds333

All of them are right. We are not defined by one word or thought or emotion. Thank Goddess, LOL

nutz

It was a very important tool passed on to me by my sponsor.
I was having a hard time grasping a HP or God at time or trying
to understand my HP better.
God as I understand him/it..or whatever.
I wanted very much to have what my sponor had and
I wanted his HP, but the man gave me something better..wisdom.

he started off with
" the more I know the less I know"
He was a very humble wise man..Had a bad ass car, nice house
pretty wife, travel the world and lots of moola too....
but he told me that he can only help to a certain piont
becuase of his limited experience or piont of view.
No matter how much of a gaint I thought he was.He didn't have all the answers. Working with others wasn't a problem for him.
He encourage me to seek out and learn as much as I could.

It unlocked my way of thinking in so many areas.
Just becuase i was right dosen't necessary ment others were wrong.
It help me to gain tolerances and repect other's point of views.
I could only identified something from my own experience, hence my own opinion. But it also help me when others agressive tried to force
their opinion down my throat. I didn't have to totally throw out
my beliefs or values. Yes, I don't have all the answers, but I'm not
totally wrong. I also needed to repect my opinions.

This analogy also helps me or reminds me.
"Get the BIG picture"
When I get caught up into something, I can only see what I can see.
I need to stand back or " GET OUT OF MYSELF" to get a greatter view
of whats going on as a whole. Service work gave my experiences of
getting out of myself.

mackat

thanks nutz

Phinneas

I love the way you put that - just because I am right, doesn't mean other people are wrong. That's how I look at god / the universe / HP / whatever. It's like we are all in a big circle looking in toward the middle. We are all looking at the same thing, just from different angles.

And today, I not only get to respect other people opinions, I get to respect my own, too.

No, it's never boring.

hugs,

phinny

pdgds333

Being raise Wiccan by my mothers side of the family and Catholic by my fathers side, my parent's and religious leaders always told me this....There is one ultimate power, who gave us free will. Knowing that this Ultimate Power is all knowing I would have to expect that if we are given the gift of free will we must be given chioces about what spirituality will help us get connected.

Being primarily of a Pagan spirituality now in my life, people in the rooms who choose a different path will often ask me if it would be okay for them to pray to their HP for me. Please Do! I say. It is all going to the same place in the end.

I Love you all and wish you the best.

Roxann

Wow, that says a lot. Very wise Patrice.

Nutz, that was a great learning tool. I love what you said here also

nutz

Respecting my own values and opinions was every, every hard
at first. I still have to work at it today.

Being abadont as a child, then raised in a household of
strick up bringing. I was basically trained to not respected
myself at the core. Religion added more fule to the fire, for me.
Being in the military, I was trained to do, do, do and not asked.
Even in the manual, I was clasified as expendable.

I notice, I grew spikes to push people away or keep at a distance.
I literally, wore spikes wrist bands, belts and spiked my hair, and
the attitudes that came along with it . I attracted a lot of pyhco B's.
But inside, I felt like crap, worthless, and had a very low, low
self esteem , if any at all.
But everytime I tried to stand up for myself...extreem actions.
Whom ever was infront of me...was deffernently at the wrong place.
The rage inside of me would spill out, plus I had an image to live
up to. Of course we all know..more punishment to re-inforce
the cycle again. I really, really had to get wack, which amplified
the self destructive behaviors/cycle even more.
A freaken EGG head.lol

it was wierd for me...my mental healty doctor didn't tell me to do
anything at first. He just listened to me and took notes.
Real fustrating for me at first . I was expecting A, B, C instructions
as before, the very behaviors which I hated but lived for years.

I'm not saying everything was bad about how I was raised.
I love my parents, the military was good for me.
I've lay down in a church and listen to my friend played music ans sung.
There's was a lot assest..just trying to identify the liabities.

Back to the preceptions thing again.lol