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Old 01-22-2016, 05:45 PM
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Alcoholics cause shock waves

that impact people that they probably didn't even know they were hurting. I recently posted something about a "friend" of my father's whom had a child I was concerned about. Last night I decided to report her to children and youth because I was concerned about her child. She must have caught wind of what I was doing because she decided to steal my father's work van and run. However, his work van is registered in my name so I had to report it stolen and stay at home to deal with the police when they came. As a result I had to stay home from work. My coworkers had to cover my responsibilities as a result which put a damper on their day. When my father's "friend" stole the van she likely assumed that she was only hurting him. However, her actions hurt people that she never even met such as my coworkers. I am not saying this to bad mouth her. I am saying this because this experience showed me that my actions likely hurt people in ways I had never considered. This incident gave me a new perspective on things. On a brighter note if our negative actions cause shock waves than I can only assume our positive actions can impact people in good ways that we never considered. I hope I made sense.
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What's the point? You lost me..
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Old 01-22-2016, 06:14 PM
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An alcoholics actions impact people in ways they probably never considered. For example, my father's "friend did something that hurt me and my coworkers. When she did that she likely did not considered that her actions would hurt anyone except my father. However, her actions impacted individuals whom she never even met.
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You made perfect sense. No man is an island. Our actions do affect other people, whether it be for good or bad. Very insightful, NepaGuy.
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yes. it's what Fly'nBuy talked about with the pond example, attributed to Earl H.

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Steps 9 and 3 would agree with the original post.


p.82
"The alcoholic is like a tornado roaring his way
through the lives of others. Hearts are broken. Sweet
relationships are dead. Affections have been uprooted.
Selfish and inconsiderate habits have kept the home in
turmoil. We feel a man is unthinking when he says
that sobriety is enough."


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"Selfishness—self-centeredness! That, we think, is the
root of our troubles."

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"...the alcoholic
is an extreme example of self-will run riot, though he
usually doesn’t think so."
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Old 01-22-2016, 10:34 PM
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now you are starting to see some truths about our alcoholism
my friend Jesse calls it collateral damage
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Originally Posted by Dave42001 View Post
What's the point? You lost me..
Pretty sure the point is that your actions affect others that you don't know, and that drinking at the time doesn't excuse thoughtlessness.

At least, that's my takeaway.
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Old 01-23-2016, 12:08 AM
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Well said. I agree I caused a lot of harm and was a burden to others and society. I like the the other side of that coin.
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Great insight Nepaguy. Considering our fellows is not a strong point of the alcoholic mind, but it is characteristic of the recovering mind. Nice post.
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GREAT post and made me read about the pond (Earl H), I wouldn't have wanted to miss that, such wisdom. Love this site. Thanks all.
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Calling the cops so soon is what got me.. I should mind my own business.. Saw this in the daily readings..

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Old 01-23-2016, 09:10 AM
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Ya, this situation was bad but educational. The amount of collateral damage dome was extensive. Not only did I miss work but so did my father which hurt his customers. Children and youth got tied up as did the state police. I am sure I have done things just as damaging. However, if our negative actions do so much unforeseen damage I see no reason why our positive actions wouldn't do a lot of unforeseen good. I mean if you help someone get sober it would benefit their family and friends in ways that you may not have considered.
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Good point!! Hope it's over and you and your Dad can move forward!
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Old 01-24-2016, 05:31 AM
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Nepaguy, you made great sense. Nice solution thinking here.

Yes, this terrible disease causes a domino affect in many lives. The Tornado.

To this day having been through the steps for a while now, I am still seeing quite often that I still have more amends to make. Thanks for this great reminder this morning.
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