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Old 08-11-2014, 10:24 PM
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NYT article....suicide bombers

I wish I could credit this properly.....but I only have
the article fragment.......
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People often think of taking heroin as like Russian
roulette....because you never know what you are
going to get ......but to Mrs. Morris, taking heroin is
more like being a suicide bomber.
"Not only are you affecting your own life, but the
schrapnel that is produced goes to the people you
love the most"
"When you're thinking of getting high, you really
should be thinking that you are taking a hot coal and
putting it in your loved one's body.....if you die, the pain
will be with your loved ones forever"
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Never thought of it that way......my FEBM theory
(F everybody but me) 'kinda fits.......but the suicide
bomber theory fits better.
People love to theorize what "they" are thinking.
We're the targets.....should we care so
much who pickled the bomb that fragments our social fabric
...or why???
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very intuitive post as always vale.

speaking of shrapnel... I compared the wounds and recovery of family members to Tony Stark in my meeting today. They placed the machine thing (forgive my ignorance please) around his heart to protect him. That's what recovery is for family members. There's no way to remove the shrapnel, but just like iron man, we can use tools to guard our hearts, and to eventually build a suit to protect us from future damage.
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Where can I purchase one of these Ironman
suits? I'm hoping for a reasonable price, but
truth is I will pay any price----sellers market!
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Heroin

It doesn't matter if you are piercing the vein or surveying the scars, you get hooked either way.

We give so much power away to heroin. It is counting on it too, our fear, anxiety, worry, anger, frustration, and especially our need to save.

We think we can compete with it. We think we can reason with it.

I have been writing about heroin for a decade now. Even I can plainly see within my own words that it didn’t take anything from me, that I didn’t give away freely. And any shrapnel I took was because of the fear I allowed to run. Because I walked right up to it and wrapped my arms around it ...

How many refuse to ever let go?
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incitingsilence,

That post hit a nerve. The last time I felt such evil (implied)power
was when I "made the jump to lightspeed" and decided I needed to
disengage----not to save her....but to save me.

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Like that the cave of evil on Degobah (planet) in Star Wars.

"That place… is strong with the dark side of the Force. A domain of evil it is.
In you must go."

"What's in there?"

"Only what you take with you."

―Yoda and Luke Skywalker (some Star Wars movie)
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We presume that if completely informed of the horrific reality of
hard opiates----they will "wake up".

Some will, some won't.

Some, if confronted with a faulty timer or initiator switch on
their suicide vest-----will NOT take it as winning the lottery and getting
the hell away from this ghastly evil-----but will go back to their master
and BEG for another suicide vest.

I came to know the truth---which was I didn't WANT to understand the
mind of the lemming. I'm a large mammal----and freefall ( though pleasurable)
is extremely detrimental to large mammals. When such large animals fall and break
their bones-----and yet rush back to the top as best they can (on broken limbs) for
another shot at freefall.....who WANTS to understand why?

(not withstanding any gentle reader who derives a livelihood from any of the
myriad parachute jump centers that lie within reasonable driving distance of all
modern Western cities......they sell the thrill of freefall to adventure seekers but
via modern methods VERY, VERY seldom kill anyone. I'd wager their risks of fatal
injury run FAR lower than that incurred on the drive out)

Sooooooooo, on second thought, to hell with procuring the aforementioned iron
garment. It is as foolhardy as a 'super seatbelt/harness' that will keep you safe in any
collision......at about 70g deceleration (I am told)----your internal organs start to
liquefy.....rendering any 'protection' moot.

The only way to win this game is not to play.
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The only way to win this game is not to play at all
Well ain’t that the truth!
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Oh, you will pay...Ironduck

Originally Posted by Vale View Post
Where can I purchase one of these Ironman
suits? I'm hoping for a reasonable price, but
truth is I will pay any price----sellers market!
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People love to theorize what "they" are thinking.
I actually stopped doing this for the sake of my own sanity. The addict thinks whatever it is they think because they're addicts. The hows and whys don't matter. It just is. And as long as you understand this, then you can respond appropriately when the addict does something awful.
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I'm a fan of the Mark VII armor, personally...
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Watch it guitar man...

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I'm a fan of the Mark VII armor, personally...
...or you too will be reduced to duck status.

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Very insightful. It's a shame all addicts don't understand.
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...or you too will be reduced to duck status.

That is f**kin' awesome!
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No wonder we have so few men posting...it's that whole Mars/Venus thing. Note hopeful's avatar. DUCK = BAD
But, at least I can post on Vale's threads and not get censored...yet. shhhhh
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Originally Posted by cynical one View Post
No wonder we have so few men posting...it's that whole Mars/Venus thing. Note hopeful's avatar. DUCK = BAD
But, at least I can post on Vale's threads and not get censored...yet. shhhhh
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.........so few MEN posting 'cuz no one else has the balls!

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Well, it would take real bazingas to wear this....

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Thus Ann spake.............and it was so!

A new avatar, better than any before!

What startling bravado, what poignant and ultimately pointless
display of pure machismo,proud plumage...... and armor.

A proud duck.....who knows not why he entereth battle?
Yea, oh hear yee....as he emits his guttural war cry as did millions
of fools before him.....to prove what?.....to whom?

But yea, I would say to thee.....even as he knows the futility of
his mission, his commission, and the ethos from which it springs, still
he runs verily ---- once again to the breach, with his dear brothers!
For those who will spill their blood with him that day shall be his brothers,
his shattered siblings, his fated friends.

They would wear down the machine guns with their chests----marching
so proudly to their doom on webbed feet of orange. Their admiring maidens,
who admire from afar---whilst trying not to.....and whom mourn the dimming
of their plumage as they rot by the thousands on a field of battle that knows
no glory.....but only fetid futility and heartbreak.

Vale's version of (codependent) St. Crispins Day. All rights reserved.

Send your complaints to Ann.....she started it with that goddamned picture.
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^^^^

Lordy, that man does go on.

Vale, I sent you a bigger duck, if you're going to walk like a duck, walk tall and proud! *snork*
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Lordy, that man does go on.

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...it's 'doth goe on' (thank you very much)

( and yea....verily!)
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cynical wrote:But, at least I can post on Vale's threads and not get censored...yet. shhhhh

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Some of our wisest people bore a startling resemblance to ducks...and then again...

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