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Old 04-26-2012, 08:57 AM
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Why We Fall Harder After A Sober Period?

The best i figure, it's a false sense of confidence. We get sober for a week, a month, 6 months, 3 years. We think we are in control. We take that drink, and think that isn't so bad. But the kicker I think (the real secret evil): Well, I have already proved to myself I can quit, so I will go down this path, and when and if it gets too far, I'll stop like I did last time - BAM THE KISS OF DEATH. Law of diminishing returns if you ask me, you will only push harder and faster to the bottom.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:07 AM
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It's a progressive disease.

This is the answer to the question posed in the thread title.
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Yes, it happened like that for me, and I see the same comments from many, many people here. Addiction is progressive and we may not get another chance.
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True Dat!
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:23 AM
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I saw a graph in a book from Hazelden, when I was in rehab, that illustrated how addiction progresses even when you're in remission. I'll have to look for it. It's two lines coming from a common point, on the left. One goes up at a 45 deg angle and one down at the same angle. Call them "Euphoria" and "Despair".

The point of the graph was, that as you get sober and progress upward, on the euphoria line, your capacity for despair progresses at the same rate along the downward trending line.

When we relapse, we don;t drop back to where we were when we got sober, we go to some place lower and darker.
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I think part of the reason is because you have typified yourself as an alcoholic in your mind, so when you go back to drinking you drink even more alcoholically than you did before.
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There is also a biological component.

Every time you go back out you are older than the last time you quit. Father Time is not kind to the active alcoholic.
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This thread really scared me for some reason. I guess because I was sober for 8 years, drank, sober for 9 years, drank for 4 years, now sober 8 months. Yeah, it gets worse/harder each time....I could not have been much lower than I was when I quit last time. And it really kicks your arse physically as you get older. I don't have another recovery in me, I don't think. Serious stuff.
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Great thread starter Mentaloop, and some really chilling responses that truly bring the message home for me. I, for one, pray to not ever have to go down the relapse road!
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I agree, as soon as I feel good again, I think its time for a drink. I wish I could record the feeling of withdrawal and play it back when I crave a drink. Its easy to forget how bad it can get when you stop drinking. Day 4 of sobriety for me, and I am starting to feel human again.
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I've gained alot of insight in the last 4 months and relapse is not an option for me, it scares the hell out of me. I watched as people relapsed and thought I was screwed.
I'm not. for me to drink is to die and I am willing to go to any lengths.
My health will not handle it and I don't believe I'd stop.
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Originally Posted by SOBERINNEPA View Post
I saw a graph in a book from Hazelden, when I was in rehab, that illustrated how addiction progresses even when you're in remission. I'll have to look for it. It's two lines coming from a common point, on the left. One goes up at a 45 deg angle and one down at the same angle. Call them "Euphoria" and "Despair".

The point of the graph was, that as you get sober and progress upward, on the euphoria line, your capacity for despair progresses at the same rate along the downward trending line.
This makes sense to me.

I also think there are little gremlins that grease the slide when we're not looking. And we think, "That slide used to be fun, maybe I'll try it again." And then -- whoops!

More seriously, I think age and the general progression of the disease make it a lot easier to hit bottom more quickly when you pick back up. You're not starting fresh -- you're starting where you left off.
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Old 04-26-2012, 09:32 PM
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Yes I agree it's progressive. If you're in a chronic relapse pattern, I think it also takes a toll on your spirit over time.

Actually I usually got back on the wagon after one or two days relapse, but they were quite scary, I had some terrible blackouts and sickness afterwards, can count myself lucky to have survived some. When I started drinking, I would often think 'Okay I've had one I've ruined it, so I'm going to go all out.' which is typical alcoholic thinking. It's the first one that really does the damage.
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These responses are scary, as someone pointed out, but I'm glad to have read them to keep the seriousness of the situation in my head.
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