What's The Point?
well, whats the point in not?
clear thinking, no more Espionage, remembering things, being available for loved ones, and others...
loving and careing about ourselfs, were worth something!
being able to run a great recovery forum?
hey, who we yap'n about? lol
and the list goes on!
clear thinking, no more Espionage, remembering things, being available for loved ones, and others...
loving and careing about ourselfs, were worth something!
being able to run a great recovery forum?
hey, who we yap'n about? lol
and the list goes on!
Chance,
This is one of those "low point questions." It's the kind of thing my brain throws at me when I feeling shaky and beginning to imagine the scenario of finding a barstool again. And the truth is, it is my alcoholism talking. Not my best side. My strongest response to this question is to recognize that it's not in my interest and that giving in to that line of reason leads to insanity. Real insanity. What's the point? Well, for god's sake, what's the point of any of it? Life? Love? Honesty? I give up all of those when I let my brain go there.
The point is your sanity. Pure and simple. The point is being able to take the next step in your life with honesty, integrity, intention and passion. Without letting a stupid little monster inside you rule your world and tell you what you want and how you want it. The point is the control you gain over your memory, your relationships and your ability to function in your job.
Push that demon aside.
- MLE
This is one of those "low point questions." It's the kind of thing my brain throws at me when I feeling shaky and beginning to imagine the scenario of finding a barstool again. And the truth is, it is my alcoholism talking. Not my best side. My strongest response to this question is to recognize that it's not in my interest and that giving in to that line of reason leads to insanity. Real insanity. What's the point? Well, for god's sake, what's the point of any of it? Life? Love? Honesty? I give up all of those when I let my brain go there.
The point is your sanity. Pure and simple. The point is being able to take the next step in your life with honesty, integrity, intention and passion. Without letting a stupid little monster inside you rule your world and tell you what you want and how you want it. The point is the control you gain over your memory, your relationships and your ability to function in your job.
Push that demon aside.
- MLE
the point in staying clean, for me, is having a decent life, one that I'm not ashamed of. I want the respect of my kids and myself and my friends, which I don't have if I'm always drunk. drinking complicates my life unnecessarily, and life is complicated enough.
altho when I'm feeling really low, like now, I wonder the same thing. I just have to force myself tostay sober cause I know what happens when I don't. And I don't want to go back there.
love, least:ghug3
altho when I'm feeling really low, like now, I wonder the same thing. I just have to force myself tostay sober cause I know what happens when I don't. And I don't want to go back there.
love, least:ghug3
Well today, I am going to remind myself, that I would rather live than to die...
I am in no position to hand down advice on the points of recovery.
But I can tell you that you have been one of the ones who have stuck right by me. And encouraged me to to find what the point is in myself.
From "Crank It Up" to many more personal threads. You do give yourself with the most sincerity to lend some words of faith and wisdom in this crazy road to recovery.
We all have those days Vic. Even ones with some considerable time like yourself.
You already know the answer.
I hope you feel better.
I have faith you will be back here telling us what that point is.
Thinking of you.
hey Vic, Rusty said it all really. whats eft for yout to do reserch on? Anything?
So much to be grateful for being free from teh bondage...
Joy instead of misery
Laugther instead of poor me
peace instead of teh constant chater
Love insted of hatred and resentment.
Kevin
So much to be grateful for being free from teh bondage...
Joy instead of misery
Laugther instead of poor me
peace instead of teh constant chater
Love insted of hatred and resentment.
Kevin
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What's the point In staying clean?
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Being able to wake up with a clear head and not be ashamed for actions of the previous day.
Being clean means giving yourself a chance... to live, find joy, peace, and live a life that you are not ashamed of.
You are coming up on your 2 year anniversary Vic... don't let that voice in your head start getting to you...
You ARE worth it! Hang in there Vic!
You are not alone!
Being clean means giving yourself a chance... to live, find joy, peace, and live a life that you are not ashamed of.
You are coming up on your 2 year anniversary Vic... don't let that voice in your head start getting to you...
You ARE worth it! Hang in there Vic!
You are not alone!
Forward we go...side by side-Rest In Peace
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The point?
Because you have so much to offer
as you continue to be a winner.
You make a difference by staying recovered.
Mega Hugs and Prayers for your peace
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Because you have so much to offer
as you continue to be a winner.
You make a difference by staying recovered.
Mega Hugs and Prayers for your peace
(+) (+) (+)
Well Vic the point is really simple.
You can sit in self pity on the 'pity pot' and let the ring get deeper and deeper in your butt until you use and drink............................................. ........
or
You can continue to use your tools, and show others by example that even through the adversities you are going through right now, there are ways to stay clean and sober.
Which point will you choose Vic?
Love and hugs,
P.S. yes you may consider this a 'loving' kick in your butt. lol
You can sit in self pity on the 'pity pot' and let the ring get deeper and deeper in your butt until you use and drink............................................. ........
or
You can continue to use your tools, and show others by example that even through the adversities you are going through right now, there are ways to stay clean and sober.
Which point will you choose Vic?
Love and hugs,
P.S. yes you may consider this a 'loving' kick in your butt. lol
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Being able to face life and everyday living that seemed impossible and overwhelming before. Making decisions that not only benefit me but benefit the good of others also. Finding new ways to grow and seeking solutions to life without picking up a drink or drug. Knowing when to ask for help and reaching out... like you are doing now. Keep reaching out.
I don't have to understand in order to believe, but I have to believe before
I will ever have a chance to understand.
I don't have to understand in order to believe, but I have to believe before
I will ever have a chance to understand.
Last edited by Hope; 05-09-2008 at 01:32 AM.
A sober Chance is one who will be remembered for his unswerving courage in the face of adversity. You are an inspiration for everybody, a source of encouragement and hope for many, many people - as you have been for me as I've been reading your story on this forum.
Don't give up Vic, don't become invisible and fall into despair again - whatever you are feeling now, in the long run, will only be made worse if you do - I think you know this too.
Continue to be that beacon of hope - for yourself, your loved ones and for everybody who knows you/of you.
All the best,
Vincent.
Don't give up Vic, don't become invisible and fall into despair again - whatever you are feeling now, in the long run, will only be made worse if you do - I think you know this too.
Continue to be that beacon of hope - for yourself, your loved ones and for everybody who knows you/of you.
All the best,
Vincent.
Vic, I ask myself the same question when I'm feeling so very low and hating myself. but some part of me wants to stay sober so I'm able to do the things I need to do: care for my kids, my dogs,and myself. I understand the "what's the point" perspective. my drunken self, my 'who cares' self feels like there's no point, but my better self is trying hard to gain the upper hand. I don't want to sink into self pity and being a loser. I want to be stronger than these fermented grapes - that's all they are, really - just old grapes. why, then, do they still have such a pull on me?? surely I am stronger than old rotted grapes? PLease God, make me stronger than the grapes.:praying
PLease Vic, lets be stronger together. It helps to know I'm not alone.:ghug3
PLease Vic, lets be stronger together. It helps to know I'm not alone.:ghug3
The point I think is to give yourself a chance to live a happy and productive life. I think that when one start's thinking what's the point?, it usually progresses to poor me, which usually progresses to pour me.
Change your thinking and change your circumstance.
John
Change your thinking and change your circumstance.
John
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