10 Days Clean from Vicodin: an Adderall Miracle
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10 Days Clean from Vicodin: an Adderall Miracle
I've been lurking for a few weeks and thought it was time to post and say "thank you" for being here.
I've been using Vicodin on and off for five years and in the last two years it got out of control; I would go CT due to running out my script early, endure terrible withdrawals, then start it again when my refill came through. Once I had two weeks of sobreity, but lost it when my stupid addict thinking convinced me that I could handle it if I promised myself to take the Vic only for pain (that lasted two hours). In the last few months I was also abusing scripts I have for Ambien, especially when I ran short of Vicodin.
I abused prescription substances in an attempt to handle terrible depression and anxiety that did not respond to SSRIs or benzos.
In a fit of "God, I'm tired of pursuing the eternal Vicodin pill" I found a good psych and have been seeing her for five weeks. She diagnosed me with Adult ADD and I started Adderall 12 days ago. Two days into taking the Adderall the craving for opiates totally left -- it was just gone, completely. Today is a tough day, with depression withdrawal and pain, but the craving for opiates that tortured me through other attempts to quit is absent and I'm not having any problems with maintaining the prescribed dosage of Adderall.
I am blown away by this turn of events. Thankful, but blown away.
I've been using Vicodin on and off for five years and in the last two years it got out of control; I would go CT due to running out my script early, endure terrible withdrawals, then start it again when my refill came through. Once I had two weeks of sobreity, but lost it when my stupid addict thinking convinced me that I could handle it if I promised myself to take the Vic only for pain (that lasted two hours). In the last few months I was also abusing scripts I have for Ambien, especially when I ran short of Vicodin.
I abused prescription substances in an attempt to handle terrible depression and anxiety that did not respond to SSRIs or benzos.
In a fit of "God, I'm tired of pursuing the eternal Vicodin pill" I found a good psych and have been seeing her for five weeks. She diagnosed me with Adult ADD and I started Adderall 12 days ago. Two days into taking the Adderall the craving for opiates totally left -- it was just gone, completely. Today is a tough day, with depression withdrawal and pain, but the craving for opiates that tortured me through other attempts to quit is absent and I'm not having any problems with maintaining the prescribed dosage of Adderall.
I am blown away by this turn of events. Thankful, but blown away.
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Originally Posted by tbeit 
Beware of taking one control substance to get off another its a slippery slope.Does the new Dr. know about the opiate addiction.I hope this works for you just be really careful
Thus far, I have no compulsion to take more Adderall than prescribed. I'm seeing the doc once a week throughout August so we can carefully monitor the situation together.
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I hate to rain on your parade, but I feel obliged to tell you that this is a really bad move. Terrible move.
I was an oxy addict and during periods when I was trying to lay low with the painkillers I had a doc prescribe me adderall. I thought I had "Adult ADD" too, but it was just another drug that replaced the empty feeling inside, made me feel stable and helped me focus, and gave me motivation to get through the day. Needless to say, this was not in best interests and left me much worse off.
Not only are they terrible for your health, but Amphetamines are a very powerful and addictive drug. They give you unnatural energy and induce a false sense of well-being, euphoria, and confidence. It's no miracle that they are curbing your cravings for opiates- adderall hits the pleasure centers of your brain, HARD. Harder than cocaine for many people.
Did you tell your psych about your history of drug abuse? If so, any legit doc would know not to prescribe Adderall. There's no two ways about it, it's a bad move for anyone with a history of substance abuse, and if it's helping to relieve your depression and anxiety, that's warning sign #1.
I trust that you can find healthier options to deal with the "adult ADD", though I know you won't do it until you suffer the consequences that I'm telling you will come.
I was an oxy addict and during periods when I was trying to lay low with the painkillers I had a doc prescribe me adderall. I thought I had "Adult ADD" too, but it was just another drug that replaced the empty feeling inside, made me feel stable and helped me focus, and gave me motivation to get through the day. Needless to say, this was not in best interests and left me much worse off.
Not only are they terrible for your health, but Amphetamines are a very powerful and addictive drug. They give you unnatural energy and induce a false sense of well-being, euphoria, and confidence. It's no miracle that they are curbing your cravings for opiates- adderall hits the pleasure centers of your brain, HARD. Harder than cocaine for many people.
Did you tell your psych about your history of drug abuse? If so, any legit doc would know not to prescribe Adderall. There's no two ways about it, it's a bad move for anyone with a history of substance abuse, and if it's helping to relieve your depression and anxiety, that's warning sign #1.
I trust that you can find healthier options to deal with the "adult ADD", though I know you won't do it until you suffer the consequences that I'm telling you will come.
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Originally Posted by Stride34
I hate to rain on your parade, but I feel obliged to tell you that this is a really bad move. Terrible move.
I was an oxy addict and during periods when I was trying to lay low with the painkillers I had a doc prescribe me adderall. I thought I had "Adult ADD" too, but it was just another drug that replaced the empty feeling inside, made me feel stable and helped me focus, and gave me motivation to get through the day. Needless to say, this was not in best interests and left me much worse off.
Not only are they terrible for your health, but Amphetamines are a very powerful and addictive drug. They give you unnatural energy and induce a false sense of well-being, euphoria, and confidence. It's no miracle that they are curbing your cravings for opiates- adderall hits the pleasure centers of your brain, HARD. Harder than cocaine for many people.
Did you tell your psych about your history of drug abuse? If so, any legit doc would know not to prescribe Adderall. There's no two ways about it, it's a bad move for anyone with a history of substance abuse, and if it's helping to relieve your depression and anxiety, that's warning sign #1.
I trust that you can find healthier options to deal with the "adult ADD", though I know you won't do it until you suffer the consequences that I'm telling you will come.
I was an oxy addict and during periods when I was trying to lay low with the painkillers I had a doc prescribe me adderall. I thought I had "Adult ADD" too, but it was just another drug that replaced the empty feeling inside, made me feel stable and helped me focus, and gave me motivation to get through the day. Needless to say, this was not in best interests and left me much worse off.
Not only are they terrible for your health, but Amphetamines are a very powerful and addictive drug. They give you unnatural energy and induce a false sense of well-being, euphoria, and confidence. It's no miracle that they are curbing your cravings for opiates- adderall hits the pleasure centers of your brain, HARD. Harder than cocaine for many people.
Did you tell your psych about your history of drug abuse? If so, any legit doc would know not to prescribe Adderall. There's no two ways about it, it's a bad move for anyone with a history of substance abuse, and if it's helping to relieve your depression and anxiety, that's warning sign #1.
I trust that you can find healthier options to deal with the "adult ADD", though I know you won't do it until you suffer the consequences that I'm telling you will come.
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Everyone is different and many of us are a lot alike. Just be careful and do your best to always ask yourself the hard questions and answer them honestly.
Welcome crocodille. I'm glad you are feeling better.
Welcome crocodille. I'm glad you are feeling better.
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Originally Posted by FNB3
Everyone is different and many of us are a lot alike. Just be careful and do your best to always ask yourself the hard questions and answer them honestly.
Welcome crocodille. I'm glad you are feeling better.
Welcome crocodille. I'm glad you are feeling better.
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You do what you want croc, but the reason I came down on you like that is because it's reckless and borderline offensive to be touting amphetamine use as a miracle on a public SUBSTANCE ABUSE forum. Most of us know better, but not all. People here are struggling and are looking for real help and healthy solutions.
PS. $$ Your psych just wants you to keep coming back $$
PS. $$ Your psych just wants you to keep coming back $$
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Originally Posted by Stride34
You do what you want croc, but the reason I came down on you like that is because it's reckless and borderline offensive to be touting amphetamine use as a miracle on a public SUBSTANCE ABUSE forum. Most of us know better, but not all. People here are struggling and are looking for real help and healthy solutions.
PS. $$ Your psych just wants you to keep coming back $$
PS. $$ Your psych just wants you to keep coming back $$
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You gotta understand that it's coming from a place of concern. You're making me a look like the bad guy for not "supporting" you, when everyone who is supporting you is doing you a lot more harm. The last thing I want to do is start fights on this forum, do you think that's why I come here? I feel an obligation to say something when I read posts like this.
You can pull the ADD card on me again, but it's not fair and I don't think you're being honest with yourself. You're making me sound like some anti-drug freak. This isn't an argument about the long-term effectiveness of Adderall for people w/ ADD and no history of substance abuse. The medicine exists for a reason, and I believe it can improve the quality of peoples lives in certain cases. But this is a substance abuse forum. And the premise of your post is about how amphetamines are making you feel better during your recovery from Vicodin, and getting rid of your cravings. It's pretty black and white.
I promise you, that if you told your psych about your drug problems and she still prescribed you Adderall (ADD or no ADD), she is either totally incompetent or just a drug dealer. One or the other. The fact that she tried to push suboxone on you for a Vicodin habit makes me think it's the latter. FYI, the doctor that prescribed me suboxone and adderall (he "diagnosed" me with ADD) a few years back lost his license. Thought he was the nicest guy at the time, because he was meeting my needs and making me feel good. He couldn't care less about me, he just wanted my $.
You can pull the ADD card on me again, but it's not fair and I don't think you're being honest with yourself. You're making me sound like some anti-drug freak. This isn't an argument about the long-term effectiveness of Adderall for people w/ ADD and no history of substance abuse. The medicine exists for a reason, and I believe it can improve the quality of peoples lives in certain cases. But this is a substance abuse forum. And the premise of your post is about how amphetamines are making you feel better during your recovery from Vicodin, and getting rid of your cravings. It's pretty black and white.
I promise you, that if you told your psych about your drug problems and she still prescribed you Adderall (ADD or no ADD), she is either totally incompetent or just a drug dealer. One or the other. The fact that she tried to push suboxone on you for a Vicodin habit makes me think it's the latter. FYI, the doctor that prescribed me suboxone and adderall (he "diagnosed" me with ADD) a few years back lost his license. Thought he was the nicest guy at the time, because he was meeting my needs and making me feel good. He couldn't care less about me, he just wanted my $.
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lets remember the medical rule.
Both sides have been adequately put here, and more than once.
Time to move on - thanks
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Time to move on - thanks
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Anyway, that will be my last post on the fora, I'm going to bow out gracefully now. Posting a thread was a real emotional risk for me and I should have known better than to put myself out there. Thanks for the good lurking experiences. Reading about others' experiences and courage helped get me to where I am now and I'm grateful for that.
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I hope you change your mind and come back Crocodile.
You may not agree with everything people post on this site - I don't either - but I know everyone here takes time out of their day to post and try to help.
The door is always open here...best of luck to you
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You may not agree with everything people post on this site - I don't either - but I know everyone here takes time out of their day to post and try to help.
The door is always open here...best of luck to you
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Crocodile, stick around. We need the social practice.
You could be like me:
Come on as a Newb and **** everyone off
Get warned about it and not care
Get banned (consequences suck) for life
Be humble and beg to get back in when I've ran away all my life
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You could be like me:
Come on as a Newb and **** everyone off
Get warned about it and not care
Get banned (consequences suck) for life
Be humble and beg to get back in when I've ran away all my life
Grow
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