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Delizadee 03-01-2016 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by Dee74 (Post 5826621)
The thing is tho drinking just perpetuates that apathy - it may even exacerbate it.
When I was first here someone said to me 'the cure for apathy is to get up and get active, it's not to drink'

I still think that's good advice ...

what ever the problem you've identified is, there has to be better ways to deal with it delizadee?

D

Hey D, so funny calling you Dee... as I am referred to as Dee in real time all the time :)

Absolutely there are better ways. I haven't picked apart my recovery plan in a number of days. Even doing meetings back to back, I still need to figure out a better way through this.
I think this is a one-off of build up. I flipped around a lot of my early reactionary attitudes to one of acceptance and I'll be honest I'm not sure how to deal with accepting things as they are. I've found a lot more patience in my day to day even though I have a mountain of crap to deal with. It's the sitting, waiting, knowing what's coming, NOT knowing how I'm going to handle it all that's unnerving. The phrase "not having a pot to p*ss in" comes to mind lots. Or leg to stand on as my father and brother like to tell me often enough also comes to mind. The anxiety has been building up because I have homework to do for my lawyer in the next week, I have my appointment with social assistance after months of fruitless job searching, and an appointment with my new addictions counselor. My lawyer suggested outpatient day treatment. I think that's a great idea, and ultimately will help me have my oldest two home with me, and rebuild our relationship, but I'm worried how an unemployed single mom is going to make day treatment work with a little one?
And my living situation is beyond ideal. I need to go back to my home.

I had every intention of exercising and getting out of the house today. It never happened.

Yeah the apathy is very bad. It doesn't care whether I drink or not. I am definitely in a funk. You're right though, drinking will make it worse so I'm done with that for today. I think I am numbing out my sober emotions a lot. Hopefully my appt on Thursday helps me to open up some more avenues. I've known for along time that it would take many approaches for me to lick this for good.

Outonthetiles 03-01-2016 04:43 PM

I'm optimistic. For a while I didn't think I had a future. I just thought I'd die young. I still don't know what was the exact trigger. I know alcohol has been a constant in my life since I was 17 or 18, but it never was a serious problem until I was older. I experienced a very painful breakup about three years ago, which still bothers me. I think that was the trigger to becoming an alcoholic. After that my drinking increased until it became a nightly thing. This is the longest I've gone without drinking since I can remember.

JL2014 03-01-2016 04:46 PM

Sending prayers for you del.
You CAN beat this.
Hugs

JL2014 03-01-2016 04:54 PM

Oh man I am absolutely pigging out tonight. First day I've gone without antibiotic induced gastroenteritis. I hope it stays gone. It's been awful.
I can be awful without being drunk. Gonna go for some sleep.
I hope ppl are resting well in their respective time zones .
Hugs

GardenGal 03-01-2016 05:03 PM


Originally Posted by Dee74 (Post 5826491)
If you think you need to beef up your recovery plan there are some great ideas here:
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...eply&p=5825731

Hi D, this link doesn't seem to work. Can you please give it another go? Thank you!

Well, my Campral won't be here until tomorrow. The doc wanted me to start it at night, because it apparently can make you quite drowsy, but I'll probably start it as soon as I get it. I'm probably pinning too many hopes on it, but I'm feeling impatient for results.

I just ate some ice cream. Better than going for the wine!

jobei, you are in my thoughts. I hope your test results are normal.

Ddee, I'm sorry you have so much stressful stuff to do. I know it's a trigger. Try to hang in there -- these are important things you're doing for the sake of your kids, and we all know it's easier [and better] to do sober.

Dee74 03-01-2016 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by GardenGal (Post 5826739)
Hi D, this link doesn't seem to work. Can you please give it another go? Thank you!

Sorry - I fixed it. The correct link is

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ery-plans.html

:tyou

D

Dee74 03-01-2016 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by Delizadee (Post 5826678)
Hey D, so funny calling you Dee... as I am referred to as Dee in real time all the time :)

Me too.Whenever someone calls me Derek I feel like I'm in trouble :)


Absolutely there are better ways. I haven't picked apart my recovery plan in a number of days. Even doing meetings back to back, I still need to figure out a better way through this.
I think this is a one-off of build up. I flipped around a lot of my early reactionary attitudes to one of acceptance and I'll be honest I'm not sure how to deal with accepting things as they are. I've found a lot more patience in my day to day even though I have a mountain of crap to deal with. It's the sitting, waiting, knowing what's coming, NOT knowing how I'm going to handle it all that's unnerving. The phrase "not having a pot to p*ss in" comes to mind lots. Or leg to stand on as my father and brother like to tell me often enough also comes to mind. The anxiety has been building up because I have homework to do for my lawyer in the next week, I have my appointment with social assistance after months of fruitless job searching, and an appointment with my new addictions counselor. My lawyer suggested outpatient day treatment. I think that's a great idea, and ultimately will help me have my oldest two home with me, and rebuild our relationship, but I'm worried how an unemployed single mom is going to make day treatment work with a little one?
And my living situation is beyond ideal. I need to go back to my home.

I had every intention of exercising and getting out of the house today. It never happened.

Yeah the apathy is very bad. It doesn't care whether I drink or not. I am definitely in a funk. You're right though, drinking will make it worse so I'm done with that for today. I think I am numbing out my sober emotions a lot. Hopefully my appt on Thursday helps me to open up some more avenues. I've known for along time that it would take many approaches for me to lick this for good.
I think we get a lot better at seeing storms coming, and a lot better at dealing with them before they hit :)

You haven't lost those sober days, or anything you achieved or learned - try to think of this as Recovery 2.0. :)

Regroup refine and re-try - you can do this Ddee :)

D

Mel12 03-01-2016 05:52 PM

Tomorrow I am getting formally tested by athlete experts. I really look forward to it. I fully expect that the tests will provide objective evidence of dramatic improvement. When the tests show progress that is startling especially for someone my age--which I know they will--rest assured I am not going to throw it away. I have no intention of throwing away all the hard work by drinking alcohol. That would be crazy and self defeating. Not going to do it. Instead, I am going to enjoy the feeling of success. It's about time.

360startstoday 03-01-2016 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Delizadee (Post 5826678)
Hey D, so funny calling you Dee... as I am referred to as Dee in real time all the time :)

Absolutely there are better ways. I haven't picked apart my recovery plan in a number of days. Even doing meetings back to back, I still need to figure out a better way through this.
I think this is a one-off of build up. I flipped around a lot of my early reactionary attitudes to one of acceptance and I'll be honest I'm not sure how to deal with accepting things as they are. I've found a lot more patience in my day to day even though I have a mountain of crap to deal with. It's the sitting, waiting, knowing what's coming, NOT knowing how I'm going to handle it all that's unnerving. The phrase "not having a pot to p*ss in" comes to mind lots. Or leg to stand on as my father and brother like to tell me often enough also comes to mind. The anxiety has been building up because I have homework to do for my lawyer in the next week, I have my appointment with social assistance after months of fruitless job searching, and an appointment with my new addictions counselor. My lawyer suggested outpatient day treatment. I think that's a great idea, and ultimately will help me have my oldest two home with me, and rebuild our relationship, but I'm worried how an unemployed single mom is going to make day treatment work with a little one?
And my living situation is beyond ideal. I need to go back to my home.

I had every intention of exercising and getting out of the house today. It never happened.

Yeah the apathy is very bad. It doesn't care whether I drink or not. I am definitely in a funk. You're right though, drinking will make it worse so I'm done with that for today. I think I am numbing out my sober emotions a lot. Hopefully my appt on Thursday helps me to open up some more avenues. I've known for along time that it would take many approaches for me to lick this for good.

Don't give up. You can do this. Life gets overwhelming with or without alcohol, and the alcohol makes it worse. I think the outpatient program is a great idea, maybe start it and it will sort itself out. Your head will be clearer about things the longer you stick with sobriety.

Badger07 03-01-2016 07:40 PM

Good evening. Day 27. I must admit I think a lot about drinking beer on a beach in Mexico. Sigh...

Dee74 03-01-2016 07:49 PM

Keep playing that tape through Badger...it doesn't end anywhere as good as you imagine it starts.

D

jobei 03-01-2016 09:37 PM

Apathy yes.... been defeated so many times not necessarily because of a craving or trigger but because I said "Just F it." I've had a difficult time loving myself, I've been selfish and narcissistic but no real love. I feel that this is where my apathy comes from... I always expect the worst and therefor make it happen. I'm going to change this, slowly, as it is at the root of my unhappiness. I'm planning to volunteer somewhere soon, I think that by helping others that I can learn to love myself. Im extremely grateful for ALL of you and I'm also extremely grateful to be sober today, I don't think that it would have been possible without the support I get here.

Time2Rise 03-01-2016 09:49 PM


Originally Posted by jobei (Post 5826529)
Thank you for the support everyone I won't get test results for a few days but I'm sober today and I'm grateful for that even if I'm terrified of everything at the moment.

Stay strong and stay sober jobei, hopefully this is nothing serious (I suspect it isn't). Sending good thoughts your way.

jobei 03-01-2016 11:00 PM

Thank you my friend, I'm not feeling very string but I am sober, I know it will take time for the rest to come. I hope you are feeling ok tonight.

SansaS 03-01-2016 11:33 PM

Sorry I haven't had a chance to catch up yet. I've been flat out working. Hopefully will get a chance to catch up tonight in bed. Just checking in so I don't lose the thread! I think I'm on day 24.

opalblue 03-01-2016 11:59 PM


Originally Posted by GardenGal (Post 5826330)
It fights cravings, and eases withdrawal. Prescription only. The doc wanted me to get through some of the emotional baggage before doing this [to get at the base of why I drink], but after 4 months, I need more help. And I assured her that I would continue with all the support work I'm doing.

Campral Treatment for Alcoholism


I want to start trying, but I have a bit of ADHD, so it's never been my thing.

I have another doc appt tomorrow with the GP, and I need to admit about the booze, that it's probably the cause of my high blood pressure. This is going to be really HARD.

My son was pretty disappointed me in this morning. This has got to be my main driver to quit for good. How can he trust me when I've promised to quit so many times?? :( I sense him pulling away.

Thanks, everyone. knb, great job pouring it down the drain. Inspirational!

:You_Rock_

Garden gal you definitely have to do this for your son. How old is he? I cannot tell you how much closer I am to my son since I stopped. I have time for him. We talk in the morning we talk at night. We laugh! I havnt laughed with him in a long time.

You must do this. Life is too short and your son will grow up fast. I dint want my.son to recent me and tell me that I wasn't never there fir him. :-((

I also have to see my doctor next week. Having my liver tested again. The doctor told me to lay off the alcohol after Christmas for at least a month. Ofcourse I didn't until late Jan

opalblue 03-02-2016 12:04 AM


Originally Posted by GardenGal (Post 5826402)
I want a sponsor! It's sort of a guru, right? But I'm too new to AA. How long do most people take to pick someone? I can usually tell pretty quickly who I jive with.

I chose mine on Monday. She has 35 years of sobriety and I always liked her shares. I just asked her after the meeting and she said she would love to. We went for a coffee afterwards and I found out that she use to br an actress and also worked in Parliament. I knew there was something about her. I havnt got a clue what her role is but I can call her whenever I want. Ofcourse I tried yesterday and she dudnt puck up the phone.

Garden gal if there is someone you click with then just ask. I also had women come up to me and give me their number but I never asked because I dudnt feel we connected

opalblue 03-02-2016 12:09 AM


Originally Posted by Auggie (Post 5826403)
It's kind of surreal how I met my guru. I just finished reading "The Crack in the Cosmic Egg' and was feeling like there was so much more to life that I know but can't see. A few days later he showed up in my life and made a huge impact. He led me to see things beyond my wildest dreams. I rarely drank alcohol back then (and never in excess) and I meditated every single day for well over a year.

When he passed away, I was devastated. Not a day goes by that I don't miss him. My meditation became less frequent and I began making poor choices. Now that you mention it, I could use a new guru too.

I didn't even know they existed in our society. I always thought they hung around ashrams. I use to read alot of books by krisnamurti. I use to be spiritual in my twenties. I don't know what has happened to me. I am turning so dark and bitter with life since reaching my forties. Got to put a stop to this

opalblue 03-02-2016 12:12 AM


Originally Posted by JL2014 (Post 5826422)
L theanine has helped me immensely. Read up on it thoroughly. That's what I did before I tried it. It's not a medication just an amino acid

Hey! I take one of those daily. I take them for my panic attacks because it ls suppose to induce serotonin. It's not cheap in the UK

opalblue 03-02-2016 12:15 AM


Originally Posted by OldTomato (Post 5826454)
Hey guys, checking in on you all before I go to bed. During the few minutes silence in my meeting I thought of you guys. I'm so relieved you're okay knb and Delizadee, we have such a strong class here!

CuteNGay - Well done on reaching double digits, you're doing great!

safeandsound - Glad you're feeling better and congrats on hitting the one week milestone! I've tried meditation but I always fall asleep. :lmao

Jeni - One month! That's amazing!!

OOTT - Stay committed to your recovery plan/program. I attend meetings daily and post on here to keep myself focused. It's easy to fall into the trap of thinking "I'm okay now" or "I was overreacting", that's just your AV trying to be sneaky.

Optimist - Ah I see, there's a lot of illness going around at the moment. I was really unwell when I quit as well, it was difficult to tell what was withdrawal and what wasn't. Double whammy! Hope you feel better soon.

GG - I'm glad you're getting things sorted with your doc, remember to have a long term plan as well as medication - attending meetings, etc. Well done for resisting that AV. Today can be the start of your new, better life if you keep fighting it.

Anyway, I'm exhausted and I've eaten my supply of ice cream that was supposed to last me a week soooo... I'm going to bed. Goodnight all! Catch you in the morning.

Oldtomato I ate a bucket of ice-cream last night. But no regrets this morning. So grateful to be sober this morning

opalblue 03-02-2016 12:18 AM


Originally Posted by Dee74 (Post 5826478)
It was normal for me knb. I had a few ups and downs for a while.
I'd be drinking for 20 years...it was a monumental change.

It would be a lot easier if recovery was a straight line...but just as we have bad days generally we can have bad recovery days too.

As long as you keep rejecting those thoughts and cravings things will get better.

What's your recovery plan like besides SR? I think it's important to do good things for yourself too - recovery should be enjoyed not endured, y'know? :)

D

I think I have a good recovery plan but yesterday the AV was really strong. I was almost too weak to fight it. I think it was loneliness that triggered it off. And I just wanted to get drunk. Very scary

opalblue 03-02-2016 12:20 AM


Originally Posted by Dee74 (Post 5826509)
I'm going to be blunt because I needed to realise this too.

Because you're in the middle of a torrid love affair with booze. There's been no room for anyone else.

An abusive relationship can be just as difficult to leave as any other.

I gave 20 years of my life to drinking - I needed to give a decent amount of time to my recovery before I dismissed it as not working.

I'm working my way from the back of the thread - I don't know what you decided ultimately yet but I'll leave these posts here cos I think it's part of an important discussion for everyone.

Life is hard without drinking...if you're like me you drank away every stress and every bad emotion (or tried to, at least)...

learning to deal with that stuff is hard - it's uncomfortable - but it does get easier.

If you never push through you'll never find that out knb - and that would be tragic.

D

Wise words Dee
So wise. Will reread this post again and again

opalblue 03-02-2016 12:21 AM

Will catch up later as there are other posts I want to reply to. I feel like I want to give everyone of you a hug today.
I cannot tell you how happy I am to be sober this morning. Catch you later

OldTomato 03-02-2016 02:02 AM

Morning all, I overslept by two hours and broke my streak of actually waking up when I'm supposed to!! Oh well. I'm off to a lunchtime meeting today, then a few hours of volunteering, then some teaching. I was considering going to a second evening meeting but I think I've got enough planned for today! Day 15 for me, halfway to the 30 day milestone!!

I was talking to a fellow AA last night about how I'm a bad sponsee. Whenever I'm getting a craving I sit through it myself, then a few hours after it I'll text me sponsor like "I almost had a drink earlier but I'm okay now". I got a telling off! I'm not really one to pick up the phone and ask someone for help, I find it really difficult. Probably need to get over that one.

jobei - Drinking will just make that apathy worse (as I believe Dee said earlier). It's true! Volunteering sounds like a great idea, it's so rewarding helping others and it gives you a sense of purpose in your sobriety. I'm hoping to start volunteering with the charity that supported me when I've got 6 months under my belt.

Sansa - Glad you're keeping busy, congrats on Day 24. Check in when you can!

Dee74 03-02-2016 02:18 AM

a good plan should target those weak spots tho knb? Have you used this link at all?

http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ery-plans.html

D

Paix Amour 03-02-2016 02:43 AM

Ive moved month but Im thinking of Jobei and knb right now.

I haven't posted much because I haven't read much later as Im very unwell at the moment, but Im thinking of you two.

Hugs to you both

Paix Amour 03-02-2016 02:44 AM

Congrats on being sober 2 weeks Old T!

OldTomato 03-02-2016 03:05 AM

Thanks Coco, keep checking back when you can! :grouphug:

opalblue 03-02-2016 03:07 AM

Deelizadee – Apathy. It’s a dangerous emotion. What can you do to change this? You say that you can. What’s stopping you? I know I need goals to keep me interested and motivated. You sound like you have some? Jeez. I am the worst to talk about this. I am trying to find joy in my life again..dont know how and when but I sure do know that drinking wont bring it.

ONTT- Breakups are a huge trigger to completely lose it. I was engaged nearly three years ago but my fiancé cheated on me. That experience nearly killed me. I was on anti-depressants, I drank myself stupid for years and my anxiety was through the roof…for years. I still think of that time. Still not over it completely. I don’t think I ever will be to be honest. It was a life changing moment and it showed me that I am very capable of destroying myself. I think this year is going to be focused on my most important relationship. And that is me. Like JL mentioned… Its about self love. I stopped loving and caring for myself for many years. Its time I showed myself that I am worth something

Mel -I am guessing you are an athlete?

Badger- Be careful. I had the same thoughts.[nearly drank last night. I would have thrown away 36 days. So glad I didn’t

Oldtomato- I am the last one to cry out for help but I have to in order to stay sober.I have battled with this addiction on my own and I cant do it. I need to be accountable, I need to be vunerable, I need to tell people I am weak. It’s the only way forward for me. I need to be honest with myself and to others. You should see me at meetings. I bawl my eyes out. I vow that I wont but as soon as I share I am overcome with emotion. I spill everything out and man do I feel better for it. Its your pride that stops you from crying out for help.

Cococo- Thanks for your concern. Are you okay? Whats wrong?

Morning to anyone else I havnt mentioned in my post

JL2014 03-02-2016 03:43 AM

Good morning folks.
Day 9. Think I counted wrong.
Tomorrow will be first double digit in 1-2 yrs.
3 long workdays to go til PIZZA Friday, instead of booze Friday.
Had a Oreo attack last night. Barely made it ! Lol


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