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venuscat 08-19-2017 08:27 PM

Jeez this upsets me.....NO....freaking heck Crois, please post. We love you, need you. I am not sure why we keep getting our wires crossed in this thread, because we love each other like crazy....we need each and every one of us all of the time.

WE DO THIS TOGETHER. ♥

Soberwolf 08-19-2017 08:27 PM

Someone's car alarm would not stop & woke me up 25 mins ago which wasn't the most annoying part it's waking up with the pain of healing from the extraction i had 2 days ago nothing too bad & it's gone now but I'm awake now so going to do some weights

Have a nice day

venuscat 08-19-2017 08:29 PM

Love you wolfie... ♥

Dee74 08-19-2017 08:48 PM


Originally Posted by Croissant (Post 6578582)
OK. I might not post then if it's mentally unhinging people, I thought my posts were supportive, and about recognising denial and isolating are part of the disease. If my posts upset Leshar (or anyone else) and she can't put me on block, then I'm happy to find other outlets for recovery than .soberrecovery, all good.

As I said a few weeks ago, I'd looked for some other real life supports, so maybe it is time to move on, as I mentioned previously, I too have a disability - Aspergers, so yes, I probably have a skewed way of showing "Support and empathy" as you put it, Dee. So if my communication skills upset people, I can only help that by being with people who know my intentions are good. There's only so many times I should have to apologise for my disability, and this is the final time I'm willing to do that.

All the best.

Hey Crois

Like I said, you weren't to know that I pulled a post.

I didn't say that your post or your posts upset Leshar - I have no way of knowing that.

I'm certainly not denigrating you because you have aspergers - thats not the case...but in hindsight it was a mistake for me to quote your post and address you.

It is true we have very different styles and approaches and you've made note of your frustration with me over the years.

I cop that - it's a fair call.

I also know I can be annoying and irritating if I get stuck on something I think is the right way.

It's also a fair call to say the frustration has sometimes been mutual.

My ex wife had the same disability and no doubt that brings up things for me.

It takes many people to make a village tho and I think you're as important as anyone else Crois.

I hope you don't leave.

After corresponding with Leshar I do genuinely believe she needs empathy and support right now.

That wasn't a personal dig at you, but I completely understand if you thought it was.

My apologies.

D

venuscat 08-19-2017 10:03 PM

Love you Dee. ♥

Croissant 08-19-2017 10:23 PM

Whoah - I've quite simply had enough after that post, Dee. It is clear, that I am the common denominator here, of offending people left, right and centre regarding my approach to recovery.

I don't know If you are saying Leshar was upset with me, and my frustration with you? What are you referring to? And now you are saying you have a problem with my style also? I am shocked and at a loss as to what all this is about in regard today/recently - other than I suggested someone go and get some bloody help and find support in their community, I mean, are we serious here? If you, or Leshar had wished to PM me with your issues that I am completely in the dark about - you both had that choice also. Either way, I seemed to have pissed everyone off here, so I apologise for the hurt feelings. I have no way to repair them, because I simply do not wish to do so anymore and continue to get kicked in the face.

I'll now go back to enjoying my Sunday now, and stop wasting my time here. It's clearly unwelcome. And people like Bob and Snooz are dealing with pretty big things right now, and this bs is going on? c'mon.

Dee74 08-19-2017 10:30 PM

I put a lot of time into that post so as not to tick you off, so I think anything else I say is gonna misfire as well, Crois.

D

Soberwolf 08-20-2017 01:19 AM

Done the weights, i was nice & quiet then done my warmdown (Basically me panting beside a fan lol) then went back to bed for a few hours

Just had a nice hot bath to help the muscles relax & were heading out to go enjoy a couple hours of sun & fresh air

Spk to you guys soon love you all x

Gilmer 08-20-2017 01:21 AM

:grouphug:

If you leave, you will be sorely missed, Crois.

I would be sorry if you left like this.

But if you do choose to, please vaya con Dios.

SnoozyQ 08-20-2017 06:51 AM

Oh wow !

This saddens me to come here to this. Crois, i personally didnt see anything wrong in what you posted. I found the tips you gave Leshar very helpful to myself and i know she would have appreciated the link.

I personally think that Leshar is feeling she has nothing to contribute as she feels hopeless at present.

I think we all know each other well enough to understand each other. Especially as you are spot on in mentioning i was going through a hard time with Angie lately and you are 100% right. You know when i dont t that something is usually going on. You know im not drinking so you were spot on with Angie.

Its been very hard watching her go through this and at times it gets too much for me. I dont want to post about it whilst Bobs lovely wife is going through chemo as i didnt want him to think this would happen to Mrs Bob xx all treatments are different and Angies is far more extensive.

Your recall for things that happen to each of us is amazing. You remember names, places etc , i wish i could do that. But I NEED you here. WE need you here.

I understand your Aspergers as Shaun has it. So many people misconstrue Shauns intentions. Or straight up think hes rude. Its taken me years to work out his condition and i love him more for the way he tries to manage it. Its NOT easy.

We will just put it down to a misunderstanding and move on.:kiss: you are very dear to me so pkease stay , i mean that with all my heart xx

Leshar, youre missed. Xxx message me if you cant post xxx

Croutie, darling Croutie. Im so sorry , it must be awful on the anniversary of your sons death. My thoughts are with you.
Can you tell us a bit about him. I know you probably did when you first became a Julyer , but id love to hear about him. What was he like , how old was he, what did he like ? Im so happy youre one of us. We are so lucky to have nabbed you.

Just know im thinking of you Croutie and sending you the biggest virtual squeezy hug and a big kiss on your cheek. Xxxx
You too Leigh as i know this will also make you thing of your beautiful boy xxx

Wolfy im sorry about your tooth...ouch !!!!! Nothing worse than a toothache or earache and extractions are the pits.

Suze , are you guys getting back on your footing now. Still so happy for you and Nick and your upcomjng wedding. I LOVE good news stories.

So many awful things in the world, a wedding is wonderful xx

Gilmer how are you doing ? What stories do you have to tell xx

Mags,Lulu, Bob, Ladybug ( how are your buggies sweetie ? ) Pj, Pete, please post.

Casey , im really looking forward to one of your wonderful posts, i miss them.

Dee , is yoir Mum still going ok? My Mum has to have her cataracts done on Tuesday. Never a dull moment with the parents, bless their little cotton socks.

I hope i havent forgotten anyone, i usually do...lol oops.

Im going to Angies in the morning again with our mutual friend Jan , to clean her house whilst she is at chemo. Will be a nice surprise for her. I took Mum & Dad up their today for a couple of hours.

We had lasagna and peach cobbler for dessert.....Mum makes a mean peach cobbler.

Love each and every one of you xxxx


:kiss:

resolute50 08-20-2017 07:10 AM

Guy, just keep in mind that it's difficult to express true emotions without facial or body language. Many, many time things tend to get taken out of context.
Don't let that drive a wedge between members of my beloved class.

I will be back after church.
Love you all.:grouphug:

PhoenixJ 08-20-2017 07:24 AM

I was considered, for a time as having Asp. My reactions externally do not fit the mold sometimes. That is okay, I have learned over years what I need to do. A tendency to read more into people's words and taking very seriously ALL that people say- is a downfall, especially matched with depression (clinical- since I was 4- or so THEY think). Partially a reason why I drank- confusion over others signals. Categorising my own.
Yesterday I signed final duivorce papers. My ex gets all she asked for. I saw one of my son's for the first time in years. He has indicated perhaps contact in the future. A bitter sweet moment. I get very concrete in looking at my feelings at times like this (or as much as I can- never divorced someone after 30 years). Just rambling now-
anyhow, prayers and support to all struggling today.

venuscat 08-20-2017 08:01 AM

More love dearest PJ. :hug: ♥

I would like to calmly repeat what I said last night....

I have no idea why we get our wires crossed in this thread....maybe it is BECAUSE we care about each other so much? I don't know, but it really does make me sad.

I don't just want the very best for Crois and Leshar, I also need them here, love having them here. We are an amazing group all together....

:grouphug: ♥

SoberLeigh 08-20-2017 08:06 AM


Originally Posted by Croissant (Post 6578582)
OK. I might not post then if it's mentally unhinging people, I thought my posts were supportive, and about recognising denial and isolating are part of the disease. If my posts upset Leshar (or anyone else) and she can't put me on block, then I'm happy to find other outlets for recovery than .soberrecovery, all good.

As I said a few weeks ago, I'd looked for some other real life supports, so maybe it is time to move on, as I mentioned previously, I too have a disability - Aspergers, so yes, I probably have a skewed way of showing "Support and empathy" as you put it, Dee. So if my communication skills upset people, I can only help that by being with people who know my intentions are good. There's only so many times I should have to apologise for my disability, and this is the final time I'm willing to do that.

All the best.

No, Crois, please no.

Please stay. We can't afford to lose you. We need each other.

SoberLeigh 08-20-2017 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by venuscat (Post 6578597)
Jeez this upsets me.....NO....freaking heck Crois, please post. We love you, need you. I am not sure why we keep getting our wires crossed in this thread, because we love each other like crazy....we need each and every one of us all of the time.

WE DO THIS TOGETHER. ♥

Together, indeed.

SoberLeigh 08-20-2017 08:09 AM


Originally Posted by Soberwolf (Post 6578598)
Someone's car alarm would not stop & woke me up 25 mins ago which wasn't the most annoying part it's waking up with the pain of healing from the extraction i had 2 days ago nothing too bad & it's gone now but I'm awake now so going to do some weights

Have a nice day

Oh, man! I'm sorry you were so rudely awakened - ugh!

Hope that you can catch a nap later :)

So good to see you back and posting!!!!!

SoberLeigh 08-20-2017 08:10 AM


Originally Posted by venuscat (Post 6578599)
Love you wolfie... ♥

So do I ❤️

SoberLeigh 08-20-2017 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by venuscat (Post 6578644)
Love you Dee. ♥

Again, so do I ❤️

SoberLeigh 08-20-2017 08:14 AM


Originally Posted by Croissant (Post 6578658)
Whoah - I've quite simply had enough after that post, Dee. It is clear, that I am the common denominator here, of offending people left, right and centre regarding my approach to recovery.

I don't know If you are saying Leshar was upset with me, and my frustration with you? What are you referring to? And now you are saying you have a problem with my style also? I am shocked and at a loss as to what all this is about in regard today/recently - other than I suggested someone go and get some bloody help and find support in their community, I mean, are we serious here? If you, or Leshar had wished to PM me with your issues that I am completely in the dark about - you both had that choice also. Either way, I seemed to have pissed everyone off here, so I apologise for the hurt feelings. I have no way to repair them, because I simply do not wish to do so anymore and continue to get kicked in the face.

I'll now go back to enjoying my Sunday now, and stop wasting my time here. It's clearly unwelcome. And people like Bob and Snooz are dealing with pretty big things right now, and this bs is going on? c'mon.

I love you, too, Crois ❤️

SoberLeigh 08-20-2017 08:15 AM


Originally Posted by Soberwolf (Post 6578746)
Done the weights, i was nice & quiet then done my warmdown (Basically me panting beside a fan lol) then went back to bed for a few hours

Just had a nice hot bath to help the muscles relax & were heading out to go enjoy a couple hours of sun & fresh air

Spk to you guys soon love you all x

Enjoy the sun and air, dear one!


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