Originally Posted by Grungehead

No apologies needed RAL. And the term "white knuckling" while not used in the AA literature is kind of implied if all you do is remove the alcohol and don't do anything else. There are many in AA now who believe removing the alcohol and using the fellowship (meetings) to stay sober is all that anyone needs. I personally tried that and failed miserably after going several years of not drinking (twice...slow learner).

I apologize for shifting the main focus of the thread away from its main intent. I agree 100% with everything your post said about what sobriety is all about.