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ArtFriend 10-01-2014 08:17 AM

Do you think alcohol should be criminalized?
 
I know they tried to do it during Prohibition and it failed miserably.

But, for sake of discussion, if could work somehow, would you want a law enacted that would make it illegal to buy booze?

suki44883 10-01-2014 08:18 AM

No. Most people don't have a problem with alcohol.

JD4010 10-01-2014 08:21 AM

Maybe it could become part of The War on Drugs(TM). We all know how successful and cost effective that has been.

ArtFriend 10-01-2014 08:21 AM


Originally Posted by suki44883 (Post 4929836)
No. Most people don't have a problem with alcohol.

Yes, but for the millions who have problems with it, wouldn't it be worth making it unavailable to them, even if it prohibited normal drinkers from getting it too?

suki44883 10-01-2014 08:22 AM

No, I don't believe it would be worth it.

JD4010 10-01-2014 08:23 AM

Sorry for the sarcasm in my previous message...but it's based on reality. :(

anattaboy 10-01-2014 08:23 AM

No more alcoholics? Only addicts? Never!...Oh, wait a minute..........

Aellyce 10-01-2014 08:25 AM

This was a nice recent thread addressing similar questions:
http://www.soberrecovery.com/forums/...ohibition.html

ArtFriend 10-01-2014 08:25 AM


Originally Posted by JD4010 (Post 4929847)
Sorry for the sarcasm in my previous message...but it's based on reality. :(

I agree! The War of Drugs is a failure.

It's a business - supply and demand. Maybe we should work on eliminating the demand - but how?

JD4010 10-01-2014 08:28 AM


Originally Posted by ArtFriend (Post 4929853)
I agree! The War of Drugs is a failure.

It's a business - supply and demand. Maybe we should work on eliminating the demand - but how?

That is the multi-billion dollar question. Why are so many people so darned unhappy with "reality" that they have to turn to booze and other substances to "cope"?

I have my thoughts on the answer to that question, but it might quickly turn into a slug-fest if I posted them.

ArtFriend 10-01-2014 08:30 AM

Go ahead JD4010 - I won't hit you. And if I do you'll never notice hahahaha!

JD4010 10-01-2014 08:36 AM

My general answer is that many of us are stuck doing things we really don't want to be doing. A lot of that comes from societal "norms"...the accumulation of stuff seems to be the main goal of the game. And that stuff better be the newest and greatest stuff; it's certainly worth camping out in front of WalMart for a day or two.

What actually makes us happy, and what society (run by the marketeers) tries to convince us of, are two very different things.

JD4010 10-01-2014 08:38 AM

Adding to the previous message: I no longer have a car. Therefore I no longer have to commute back and forth to a job I don't like, sitting in traffic and constantly cursing at other drivers for being such morons. I can now walk or ride a bike to work. I still don't necessarily like my job, but I got rid of a huge source of stress by getting out of the damned car.

anattaboy 10-01-2014 08:45 AM

Social mores would have to change in regards to the usefulness of altering one's consciousness. 150 years ago drinking after 16 hrs. of hard physical labor was the norm for many and not going to work the next day was never a question. No problem. Moonshiners will shoot cops as will pot growers-so much for the Law-craving will win every time (I mean craving in more of a Buddhist sense).

doggonecarl 10-01-2014 08:47 AM


Originally Posted by ArtFriend (Post 4929841)
Yes, but for the millions who have problems with it...

Obesity is a problem for millions. Are you going to make being fat illegal? Or fast food? Sugar?

MarathonMan 10-01-2014 08:49 AM

No they shouldn't make alcohol illegal, in the right hands (most people), it is not a problem, why punish all the normal people for our failures.

anattaboy 10-01-2014 08:50 AM

Right on JD! This is more of a chicken/egg question--with the exception that wanting begets having (egg). Renounce and take up homelessness! Don't be such a needy little egg. An egg is a universe in and of itself. I'm just BSing... I don't have the balls either!

ArtFriend 10-01-2014 08:54 AM


Originally Posted by doggonecarl (Post 4929905)
Obesity is a problem for millions. Are you going to make being fat illegal? Or fast food? Sugar?

You have to eat to live... not so much with alcohol. The argument doesn't apply here.

ArtFriend 10-01-2014 08:56 AM


Originally Posted by JD4010 (Post 4929882)
My general answer is that many of us are stuck doing things we really don't want to be doing. A lot of that comes from societal "norms"...the accumulation of stuff seems to be the main goal of the game. And that stuff better be the newest and greatest stuff; it's certainly worth camping out in front of WalMart for a day or two.

What actually makes us happy, and what society (run by the marketeers) tries to convince us of, are two very different things.

Very true! I agree. I dropped out of the corporate rat race 10 years ago. Used to call it "golden handcuffs". I made over 100K and I was miserable.

trachemys 10-01-2014 08:57 AM

No to illegal alcohol. As a matter of fact, when I'm king of the world I'll legalize all drugs.

I never had a problem with other drugs. Tried everything except needles, enjoyed it, learned from it, put it all down and walked away.

Alcohol has always been my Achilles Heel. In hindsight, it was my problem from Drink 1. Yet, I know many people that are with alcohol as I was with all other drugs. Not a problem.

I can't take that away from them for my genetics.


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