Jess~ I understand Girl. I honestly don't know how I'd react if my Hubby called me in the middle of the night to get him because he was drunk and I"m not even pregnant! I think that our frame of thinking is so totally different than it was at this time last year, we no longer tolerate things we used to think were fun and okay, kwim?

When I see people now,drunk and acting a fool, I want to get FAR FAR AWAY. And I just want to say that just because we used to do something it doesn't make it okay for it to be held over our heads forever.

you know whats sad Jess, so very many people who come here then leave continue to drink and lie. You and I know in our hearts we aren't those people, I wonder if those people knew they would always stay sober too. Devil's Advocate: Maybe look at it as him loving the baby enough to ask?

It would hurt me, I hate people thinking I am lying when I am not. Talk to him about the trust, then let it go. You guys are strong, and you are gearing up for a really wonderful occasion.

I am really thrilled with the move, although I was miserable til I could see the ocean. I am sad about Annie the dog, but ever so happy my sister and nephew have her to protect them in the new home.

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Warren... I read your post "out there" about returning to drinking at your year mark for a time, which is your business, and makes not a lick of difference to me if that's what you do... however, I think that THAT is the entire reason you crave drinking all the time. You have a carrot in front of you. I used to take 'breaks' too (not quite this long) to prove I could do it, and boy towards the end of that goal I would be literally salivating for that drink. I craved and craved drinking all the way until in December when I finally said no more, never ever again. Took all that insanity and obsession away.. but you've got it all waiting for you, ready to throw you a welcome home party practically, and THAT would consume me at a level I'll never want to expose myself to again.

Just my .02....

Thanks everyone too for your thoughts on the hubby issue. Just a blip on an otherwise joyful adventure. We've worked through it, I know I taught him very well how not to trust me, hell it was probably one of very few times he's asked me if I'd been drinking, and I was being HONEST when I said no! Suz, you're totally right.. 8 months is a drop in the bucket, just a whisper of time compared to all the time I've spent with alcohol. Things are groovy again :)

Hope you're all doing well, Lisa.. you're so brave, and I'm so proud of you hun.

Lisa~ I'm so proud of you and care about you so much! I agree with Lisa, you are one brave woman. Love you Girl! :ghug2

Jess~ I'm glad you guys talked it out =) The 8 months, it's funny, that also come up for me yesterday. We were at a Friends house that we hadn't seen since last August. Last time we hung out was at a club and I was completely and utterly trashed. He's known me for years and I've always drank! So yesterday they offer me a few different drinks and I said no thanks, then the last time I said "I don't drink" to which he said "Yeah you do! Since when do you not drink?" and my Hubby said "She decided to quit and doesn't drink anymore" He smiled and said "Cool". And that was it! lol But it made me realize that a lot of people who know me still don't know I don't drink, mainly because I haven't seen them. So basically my point is yes, 8 months is a drop for us because all of us, drank for years. I started at 16! And I care for you tons as well Sweetie :ghug2

Warren~ I haven't read your post out there yet, so I'm simply going by Jess' post. I have to agree and say that when you put something in front of you like that, I'll have it at this time kind of thing, it's simply torture! I was around a group of Friends yesterday, they were all drinking, and I didn't even think twice about it. I simply DIDN'T CARE! When I said no more, I meant never. I honestly think that's why I've been able to be at peace with it, if that makes any sense. I'm going to read your post out there...

lol.. ok get technical..

Insert, the possibility of/the thought of/the reassessment of/returning to drinking

The fact that it's even a possible maybe worthy of reassessment kinda option might be what's causing you a bit of troubles. But I have no idea. I know for *me* if I thought I would ever reconsider drinking, I'd be counting down the days and looking forward to said 'reassessment' time drooling for that drink.

That part of your post: Does that mean that people without your amazing discipline are the ones who go back and return to their bad drinking behaviors? I know you didn't mean that, but seriously.. And I suppose if you can achieve anything you set your mind to, and the rest of us can't simply do that.. what?

Ok I'm off my snarky soap box. I wish you luck.. but it doesn't sound like IF you go back to drinking that it will be a problem one bit for you! Heck.. why are you waiting for a year?

Ok off my super snarky box now. Can you see how this reads to those of us with obviously weaker mental capabilities?

amen sista!

Amen SistaS!

I have a friend who quit drinking, he said he was going to try 3 months and then have a beer. his 3 months is coming up next week. My "voice" said to me the other day, "hey, I should do this experiment with him" haha. I caught myself and giggled a little. I am going to let him try it for both of us. Unfortunately I suspect I know how it will end, I hope he pulls himself up short when it goes south.

I'm not offended Warren. Watching how other people handle their addiction issues alternately fascinates, inspires and saddens me.

thats not the case for me.

If I am in a better place in my life now (which I am), it is only more reason to NEVER drink again, because when I drink a little I want more, and when I drink more I do atrocious things that could lead to my new found happiness going away *poof*.

I have a bit of a crush on someone. He doesn't drink. I can play the whole evening out in my head if I were to get drunk around him, not pretty. I happy, and free and dealing. Learning to cope with everything sober, and I love it!!

My "crush" is a guy I knew back when. We were very close, and lost contact because I lost contact with most everyone when I left town to do my thing. We reunited over breakfast a few months ago, and he has aged well=)

He and I have lovely chemistry, and immediately fell back into a very special friendship. I would be quite content with that. But. . .hes real yummy and very single and should he decide he wanted to make out, I would totally go there haha.

I just caught up on the posts and I really don't know if there is anything of value I can add to the conversation. All I know is that if I want to self destruct, I'll pick up that first drink. If I want to start out having fun and end up miserable, I'll pick up that drink. I remember vividly how my mouth would start to water and I'd get anxious around 7:45pm, because I knew my Kids would be in bed soon and I could "relax" with a bottle of wine. Yes, BOTTLE because I don't remember many times when I had only 1 or 2 glasses of wine. Or 1-2 beers, 1-2 shots. Does it really matter what it was? I even used to say "It's wine, It's good for your heart!" Ummm....Yeah....

I was happy and celebrated with a drink. I was sad and numbed myself with a drink. I drank for all reasons and no reason at all. I will NEVER go back there. NEVER! The same way I can say I would never be unfaithful to my Husband, I can say I will never pick up a drink again.

Lisa... any crush updates? How was your move btw? Are you just loving it? I'm sure your puppy misses you but it looks as though she is in a great new home :)

Warren, we're all battling.. glad you're still in the fight for now. None of us are so unique in this.. 'you are not a unique snowflake' from Fight Club comes to mind here haha.. You purport not to have as "serious" of a problem as most or ANY of us simple minded drunks on here ;), but have needed the MOST support.. hope you're still looking into some outside help. Drink, don't drink.. totally your choice, your life, your priorities.

Suz, I agree.. I am so past the drinking thing, for whatever reason or another.. it also makes me sick to even think about. My life is so much better, nothing would get even BETTER if I drank... ever. I love it!

We're finally pretty settled at the new place, getting some painting done etc.. misc things. My lil boy is just over a pound in weight now, I'm 23 weeks pregnant. We're very excited. But I have talked ENOUGH about that, it's my lil obsession at the moment, and no need to spew it at you :)

Charles is likely here in CO somewhere but course didn't bother to get in touch LOL.. tis ok.. Hope you're enjoying the vacay!!

Dori.. miss you!

Phal, I know you're around somewhere, hope you're doing great!

Back to work for me, ta ta!!

I just got back yesterday from my Colorado Adventure. And let me tell you it was an adventure. I had a travel buddy that freaked out on CURVES and ended up leaving me early in the trip.

Then I ended up in an Emergency Room. I damaged my Corneas.

Despite all this I had a great time and I'll share some pics with you guys.

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This is the Garden of the Gods

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Dave and me on Royal Gorge Bridge

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The View to the river 1000 feet below.

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My baby near Lake City, CO

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The view down onto Lake City

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Near Carbondale, CO

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Me in Snowmass Village (near Aspen)

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Near Independence Pass

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Loveland Pass