I would love it if he would read books. The big book and an entire folder of papers regarding alcoholism, quotes from the internet, etc., lay on the kitchen table never touched. If he read these things, how could his attitude not change? I know he is afraid and doesn't want to face the facts. I wish he would stop being so angry about the world and let his guard down just once. Just give up the fight. Thank you all so much for your wisdom. And congrats to all of you and best of luck on your road to a bigger, better life.........Lolobug