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Old 11-17-2021, 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by trailmix View Post
Hi Ez, yes what a horrible, hurtful situation. Addiction by its nature is selfish.



Yes the potential. It is important to pay attention to the person they are today, not some distant time in the future when this hopefully, maybe, all works out. Potential is great, but it is not something that can be judged. You really had no idea who she was, or would be if she put down the bottle.

The cheating, the hiding the lying, while they are all things coming at you they are also things she is doing/living through. That forms part of who she is, now and going forward, that's a big hill to climb. Also, she has never really been "sober" with you as she never stopped drinking for any length of time. It takes a long time to recover, perhaps a year or more for the body to start truly healing (the brain). There is a big difference between "sober" and "in recovery". Recovery from alcoholism can take many years, undoing all the damage that has been done, physically and mentally. She is no where near that.

A further question might be - why are you looking for potential in someone instead of at the person standing in front of you? None of us can change anyone, alcoholic or not, that's just not within our power (and shouldn't be really).

Maybe another thing to look at are your boundaries. Do you have any or are they easily jumped over? Boundaries are for you, not other people, they are not rules for others. So for instance, if you were living with an alcoholic a rule would be - you cannot drink in this house. That's a rule that is entirely dependant on them toeing the line you have drawn. A boundary would be - I will not live in the same house as someone who drinks in the house. That is actually under your control - has nothing to do with the other person per-se - you have your boundary YOU decide how to proceed, you don't need anyone else to buy in.

A few things you mentioned which is why I am asking about boundaries (ie: who is looking out for you?):

- she cheated on you
- realized she was bi polar and manic depressive without getting the help she needed for those two issues
- She was drinking to escape her head and she obviously abused it
- I noticed her trend of being mentally and physically abusive towards when drunk. I've had her bite me on my neck to get away from her, spit in my face, and talk down to me by calling me a piece of ****, loser, and much worse. It was an endless cycle where it would happen
- she crashed multiple cars, got a slap in the wrist dui (was able to drive for work) and lived with her mother.
- We never lived together because I was always afraid of her abusing me
- she got the point where she was going to get kicked out of her mom's house because she couldn't keep a job and she would drink behind our backs every day
- her mom and I tried to get her help but she never wanted to.
- Went to rehab and relapsed 2 days later
- she was stealing money from her mom, drinking, and hiding the beer so her mom wouldn't see it

This is a disaster and a disaster of a relationship, but I see no boundaries. She can behave toward you and around you any way she likes and you are good with it (but not really?) I don't say any of this in anyway to lay blame or make you feel bad, I just hope you will start looking out for yourself, you are just as worthy of care as the next person.





See above. She meant it when she said she didn't know why you stayed with her. It might be cute and flirty if someone said that after they burnt dinner, not cute or flirty when it applies to the list above.
I do know she meant it when she said she didn't know why I stayed with her. I heard that line 5-10 times throughout our relationship, along with her calling herself a terrible human being multiple times. I do think she really believes that because she does have alot of self hate, but it came off like she was playing victim and wanted sympathy. I look back like I enabled her to lie and treat me like this even though there were times where I stood my ground and told her how hurtful she is to people and needs to take a long look in the mirror.

The longest she went without drinking or using any kind of substance was the month she spent in rehab this July and like I said, she relapsed 2 days later. I think now she might be 6 weeks sober because she went in on September 29th but as far as I knew she might have relapsed already. When she got her phone back, it was 4 days later where she said that she passed her first random test. I don't think the facility tests her everyday and that always scared me because I feel like those type of places should test alcoholics every single day and hold them accountable if they fail.

It makes me feel worthless as a human being knowing that I did everything I could to help her and guide her in the right direction only to be thrown to the curb like a piece of garbage. I do believe she wants to get clean, but she didn't really go into this willingly. It wasn't until it was pushed upon her so strongly by her mom and I and her having no where to go. She never really hit rock bottom.

Everyone around me and her was very aware of how toxic it got between us because of everything I said, but we did have some bright moments that made me feel like it could work if she did get sober. I think that's the hardest part I'm having to come to terms with.

Thank you for your detailed reply.
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