Originally Posted by
Hodd 
We failed so many times before the lightbulb moment, and it’s upsetting to watch others do so.
Yes, it's frustrating. I guess the only thing you can do is tell them. Future failures with more people telling them the same thing will hopefully make it clear. Unfortunately, there are well meaning but not very knowledgeable people out there telling them to control their drinking, and many alcoholics will gravitate to the advice they want to believe. And it sounds like solid advice. Suffering alcoholics know they need to control their drinking, and they see all kinds of normal people doing just that. What they don't understand is that they themselves never will control their drinking, because they can't.