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Old 06-16-2019, 04:16 AM
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OpheliaKatz
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Originally Posted by NYCDoglvr View Post
Bill Wilson, founder of AA, describes alcoholics as self-centered in the extreme. It may look like narcissism but it isn't. Narcissism is forever; alcoholics in recovery frequently stop being so self-centered.
Narcissists sometimes use drugs or alcohol as an excuse to be abusive. So if you're in recovery, and have been in recovery for years, and you're still horrible, you were probably a narcissist before you were an alcoholic -- as Doglvr said.

With the people in my family that are narcissistic... one way I have found to manage them is to simply NOT manage them. When they are upset for seemingly no reason, I just ignore them. If I can't ignore them, I avoid them entirely (grey rock them) for a couple days. These people may be low on the narcissist spectrum though. They are usually benign as long as they are getting enough attention (from people other than me... cause I ain't got time for that no more.)
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