Another one right here. In a sense, and I mean this genuinely, chronically relapsing can also be seen as chronically sober. In other words, it demonstrates, at least to me, that a person is continually trying to remove themselves from the muck and the filth of a drunken life. There's something inside of them that drives them over and over to try and do the better thing, the right thing. I'm permanently sober, finally, and it's taken a long time to get here but I'm grateful each and every single day. Lots of examples on this website and elsewhere. You just need to work, make some sacrifices and life will unfold and all its peace, Beauty and freedom right in front of your eyes.