Old 06-14-2018, 08:23 AM
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GerandTwine
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Originally Posted by daredevil View Post
I actually didn't consider moderate drinking, as permanent abstinence denotes the absence of light, moderate, and heavy drinking. So yes, it's included.
This post confirmed to me that my earlier “final congratulations” to DD was appropriate. I believe DD has gone “through” recovery and is on the other side of it, unfettered by any need for future expenses (of time, money, association with struggling addicts, dubious self-imaging, etc.) to remain permanently abstinent.

In this forum labeled Secular Connections and the one next door labeled Permanent Abstinence it is considered the pinnacle of success when a person ends both their addiction AND their recovery. It’s a “graduation”, or a “quantum leap” OUT of a cyclical, rhythmic, deep pleasure appetite trap.

We are all familiar with huge segments of recovery itself which maintain that cyclical, rhythmic nature of appetite existence that is unnecessary, expensive, and for some people debilitating, for acheiving total abstinence.

I thank Sober Recovery for providing the Secular Connections and Permanent Abstinence forums offering information on how to use personal responsibility in making recovery an event preceded by ambivalence and followed by harmless residual desire.
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