Yeah,man..'bottom' is where/when you decide it's just not working for you anymore. For some that's loss of SO/kids,jobs,homes,jail,ect..but it doesn't have to go there. What action based tools/plans do you use? 'Wishing/hoping" myself sober didn't work well. I had to take and continue to take action to NOT drink. Start with small things..a meeting,post/read on here, make daily lists of positive things to do hourly during the first couple months,ect..