Crickets? haha, it never gets old. I have 3 1/2 years and change, not sure exactly, but quitting at the end of the year helps in knowing when. When I quit, I said I was never going to drink again. About 3 months later I discovered AVRT, and I did the 'short course' or whatever it is called. I really liked it. It was then I added, "And I will never change my mind." I got my PHD and never looked back. Don't hold yourself back by refusing to say, "I will never change my mind." If you know you need to quit for good, why continue to doubt it. That is how I look at it. I know I should never drink again, why kid myself in thinking that maybe one day, just maybe... When you think like that, you are not fully committed and you are leaving the door open. Close that door! And lock it.