Originally Posted by
BrendaChenowyth 
I didn't understand the statement that Dee just quoted, at all. Maybe it could be rephrased? Because I tend not to think it paints relapse in a positive light, I think it intends to accomplish the opposite, but that the message got lost in translation some how?
Not sure if you meant the original quote or my comments re -quoting Brenda - but just for clarity...
With all due respect to you, notsosober, my point was that we don't need to relapse to learn anything.
I strongly believe relapse is a part of my sickness, not my recovery.
That's the second time in a week I've heard that relapse can somehow be part of 'learning recovery'
Not only do I disagree but I think it's pure AV.
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