Hi French and all.. I had the same problem back in the fall of 1990... went to the AA meetings went to the Doctor and one day looked at myself in the mirror and said what the heck are you doing???? had that heart to heart talk to me from me by me and just me.. funny just now can smell and taste the Earl Gray tea I was drinking that day.. Stop this right this minute.. and get this straight.. you have to do a better job for the kids and yourself or things will fall apart again.. went to an AA meeting that evening.. opened my eyes listened closer with my ears.. and walked out in hour.. never went back.... I may be nuts even a tad crazy .. but kids and beans ... when I took a good look at what I was trying to find in that group I said .. NOPE NOPE NOPE.. and left... maybe like in another thread .. One Persons Normal is not a Normal Model for everyone.. and we all need to find that Normal that is best for just Me I and Me.... sorry I am going in circles.