This kind of thing makes me sad though. Is the only thing we can offer people that they need to want it more? I'm still not sure where desire fits in for me and my quit process. I wanted it enough to ask others to intervene and save me from myself. But I'm not sure that's the same as wanting it more than I wanted to drink. In fact I think it was kind of an admission of the opposite. There were two parts of me at war. The part that wanted sobriety was too weak to win without help. It was a fake it til you make it kind of approach but it worked for me.