Just to go meta a bit, I'm wondering what fuels these conversations? If something isn't working for you, try something else. And something else again. And if none of those things "works", mebbe ask yourself if you're the problem. Or don't -- what do I care whether what works for me works for you?
AA/not AA, cult/no cult, faith in a spiritual solution or scientific one -- and most people's ideas about science are faith-based, especially about medical and psychological sciences -- does the back-and-forth improve your experience of life? Or is it just feeding your ego? Or passing the time between urges?
Me, I'm here because my blocker shut me out of computer solitaire.