Thanks everyone for your responses and encouragement. I have not responded to him. I am choosing not to because no matter what he says it's either a lie, a manipulation, an excuse, or a con. No more. Don't get me wrong hard as he'll not to want to hear to his voice but I'm just so done. As for his GF she hasn't contacted me. It's more me wanting to help her through this cause I know how hard it is. I was in it for over 2 years and all of you here and therapy to get me out of the merry go round. But you guys are right, like him, I cannot want what is best for them. They have to want it for themselves. I said it once ok maybe twice and now I don't want to be a nag. Should I suggest to her the National Domestic Violence Hotline?