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Old 07-28-2014, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Ken33xx View Post

He’s stayed sober but now is at odds with members and things have gotten ugly twice in meetings.
sometimes we seem to forget
how sick some are when they come into AA
just because these sick ones have some time away from the drink
in no way are they normal healthy people

to once again be (normal healthy)
this takes much time for the average drunkard after sobering up
note
some unfortunate ones will never achieve this goal

also note
some who have never taken a drink will also never achieve this goal

the "fallen world" that we live in

To live in a fallen world means we struggle with sin on a daily basis. We experience heartache and pain. We witness natural disasters and staggering loss. Injustice, inhumanity, and falsehood seem to hold sway. Discord and trouble are commonplace. None of this was God’s original plan for humanity. We fell from our original position in the Garden of Eden. We now live in a fallen world, and all creation “groans” under the consequences of our sin (Romans 8:22).

Read more: What does it mean that we live in a fallen world?

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