I felt like I was getting emotionally charged, which is why I edited my last post - not sure why either.
However, what I would like to say is I think most of this is about persepctive. Program agnostic, perspective and attitude make all the difference.
Cabo I think we see what we want to see. Some see the negative in there not being celebration for moderation in a recovery forum. I see people trying to share their experience, their solution no matter what program or lack of a program. I think its about the glasses one looks through.